early desexing of australian doodles

JettsMom · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:39 am Post subject:

Thank you all for your words of comfort. Gracie stole my heart quickly. I still have all her toys and puppy stuff packed away and have not allowed any of the puppies/dogs that have come after her to play with them. All the other stuff was fair game but not her things. Silly, huh.

Anyway back to the topic of ESN. I will say that as an owner, not breeder, I loved, loved, loved, the convenience of receiving Copper already neutered. Not only for not having to go thru the agony of waiting thru his procedure, but he doesn't have any of the undesireable behaviors* associated with male dogs. He has never humped, he doesn't lift his leg, he doesn't mark, he doesn't sniff, sniff, sniff certain body parts. Is that attributed to his early neuter? I can't say for sure, but all of the other male dogs I have ever owned, all neutered later, displayed some or all of these behaviors.

Oh and for Jac and Tallady. Copper doesn't crotch bump. Laughing

*edited to replace bad behaviors with undesireable behaviors.
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1817 Location: VA

No actually that has nothing to do with early spay
My poodle didnt lift his leg until he was 2yrs old, he was bred when he turned a year
as far as humping that is showing dominance, sniffing is how dogs great each other
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JettsMom · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:46 am Post subject:

Hi Nancy, I am aware of the "why" of the behaviors. What I am thrilled about is that Copper is not inclined to display any of them. Very Happy

The sniffing I was refering wasn't the greeting sniff, but the excessive, annoying sniffing I have observed in other dogs. That is why I posted sniff, sniff, sniff. Wink

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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1817 Location: VA

New Smells, smells tell a dog about the person
Gosh your dog sounds like such a great dog!!btw Smile

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We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

DebBrown · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

dixiedi · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:39 am Post subject:

I agree that ESN makes for a better pet especially in the male puppies. I know there are exceptions, but on the whole, it definately makes a difference.
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1817 Location: VA

I think spaying and nueturing makes a difference , dont think it matters as far as temprment goes wheither ,,dont think it matters when ,,just that its done, early or later,
the dangers of ESN is way to many IMHO
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Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

doodleheaven · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:57 am Post subject:

I wanted to have my pup neutered earlier on but my vet refused saying the anesthetic is hard on their livers when so young and being a bit older (5/6 mos) their livers are a little more mature. Not sure what weight this holds, I have never read anything about that, but worth considering?
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