American Labradoodle vs Australian Labradoodle

annabelles mom · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:55 am Post subject:

Oooooooooooooo puppies - hope Mama and babies do well in delivery !

You Will be posting pics right ??? Very Happy

Annabelle is an F1B and does Not shed, and after having Labs in the past, no shedding is a treat Laughing

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gracielou · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:04 am Post subject:

No one that I know of has ever infused terrier or spaniel into their lines, but I'm not going into that discussion with anyone all I know is I sure don't. And like I said from my experience they don't shed, I have 3 here and 2 in guardian homes and Dixiedi has Archie and none shed at all. I'm sure if you raised multi's you would see what I mean.

Good Luck with your Mama and puppies hope they do well.
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1798 Location: VA

Thats wonderful ,,you got lucky
I seem to be able to achieve the same type of coat type in the majority of each litter as the Multis and they dont cost as much, the percentages on non shedding hair or dander is very high even on the flatter coat type pups, so will stick with them and maybe up one gen,,
in any case they are all too precious for words,

god willing this will be a easy delivery, we dont have that many pups, or they are really small ,she isnt that Big Smile

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newaustralianlab · Junior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 37

[quote="Doodlesville"][b]F1b's Shed? Mine dont!!!
I have heard of Aust Mulit Gens Shedding ,fyi numerous!!

which breeders pups are producing australian multi-gens that shed? Are you sure they are breeding multi gen AL to multi gen AL only? who do you recommend in the NYC area that has produced consistent results?

newaustralianlab · Junior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 37

"I have heard of Aust Mulit Gens Shedding ,fyi numerous!!"

Which breeders do you know that are selling australian multi-gens that shed after they lose thier puppy coat? Are you sure they are breeding multi gen Australian doodles to multi gen Australian doodles only? Are you sure BOTH parents were always multi gen Aussies whose heritage dates back to Tegan Park and Rutland Manor in Australia? Did purchasers pay $2,500 for their dogs who shed? There are many breeders selling F1Bs mixed with Australian doodles and incorrrectly selling them as Australian doodles for less than $2,500. Can you give me more info? If not, your response is not helpful.

hmz819 · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:08 am Post subject:

I am sorry but I have to say something here. This is a forum where we share ideas and stories about our puppies and dogs. Whether they are Aussie LDs or not. No puppy is looked down upon. (which in my opinion you are doing--only my opinion) Now that being said, I know you are looking for information and that is why this forum exists but I must say that I have been offended more than once by your posts. The line about can you give me more info if not your response is not helpful is not the way to go about getting information from the wonderful people and breeders on this forum.

I hope you find the puppy you are looking for and treat him with the respect he deserves because in my opinion you have not shown very much respect to those that have tried to give you answers to your questions from thier own experiences.
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1798 Location: VA

First off,,Heather,,very well put, ty

Secondly,,YES <<AUST MULTI GENS shed!!! do a bit more research,

thats all im saying, and i am certainly not getting into a argument with someone that doesnt want to hear the truth,,
good luck to you ,i hope you find your PERFECT puppy, ,,good luck in your search
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Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

newaustralianlab · Junior Member Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 37

I'm trying to get answers to my questions so I can make the best decision possible for my family. The fact is many people responded who have American doodles which is nice. However, I was trying to get feedback from Australian doodle owners to get a better consenses on shedding. So far the only ones who told me Aussies doodles shed are American LD owners and American Labradoodle breeders. So my response was to ask which breeders are these doodles coming from because the ones I'm talking to are telling me their dogs don't shed. I also prefer to find owners on my own than to call the references they are giving me. Just trying to protect my "investment" and get straight to the point.

I love all dogs and have great respect for ALL doodle owners and breeders!!! Thanks especially from Jac at BackPorch in CA who gave me great questions to ask the breeders I'm talking to.

annabelles mom · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject:

I think most of the doodles on here are Labradoodles, not Austrailan doodles, which is prob why you arent getting a lot of "personal" experience response

Sadly, I think there will always be some people out there who misrepresent what they are selling whether it be dogs, cars, homes -you just have to weed thru and ask a lot of questions. When I was searching for a doodle, I had a few breeders tell me F1B's Never shed, yet I have talked to some owners who have them and some do shed - so there will always be info that is not 100% correct

I'd try googling or yahoo search for Austrailian Doodle Forums and maybe you will find some forums for people who own A.D.s where you could get more information

Good luck
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blueteal · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:

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annabelles mom · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject:

Kristen no one is critizing her for wanting an Austrailian - she has been given many suggestions on how and where to look for an Austrailian and to find more info on them - she has made it clear she thinks that is what is best for her so that's what she should do

There are pros and cons to all dogs - if you read my post you would see I was not suggesting otherwise.
And, If you had read all the other posts, you would have seen that others have given her the same suggestions. It's all personal preference as to type of dog and how much you wanna spend, you shouldn't rely on or ask others how much you should spend - it's all personal preference, everyone budget is different. For some people, spending $2500 on a dog is nothing, for others it is not doable

I was pointing out, as others have, that she appears to have made up her mind and if that is the case, then she should go buy her dog or look elsewhere for more help as she doesn't appear to be getting the type of help she is looking for here.

Myself And others have also suggested how she can find forums that are for Austrailian Doodles not Labradoodles where she could get some more information on Austrailian doodles as there are very few Austrailian doodle owners here, most have Labradoodles and she is wanting info on AustrailianDoodles. She was Not being critized for wanting an Austrailian.

As You said, we all have different opinions and beliefs and I was stating mine as you have stated yours Smile

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Linda · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject:

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially when posting on an internet forum. Some forums are very impersonal with just questions asked and answered. If you come here expecting that format and post that way, it is a big change from our usual warm and friendly postings, so it does stand out. No problem....

Here is a breeder using Tegan Park and Rutland Manor dogs who is very upfront that her puppies could (do?) shed based upon a letter she has posted prominently on her website.

DebBrown · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject:

Charlie is an AL and he does not shed. You can see from my avatar picture that he has a very poodle-like coat. He is only 8 months old so its possible that his coat may change.

I spoke to a number of breeders before adopting Charlie but, unfortunately, they are all here in the Midwest. Here is a link to the Australian Labradoodle Club of USA breeder list. Many have websites: http://www.australianlabradoodleclub.us/MemberBreeders.html

Good luck with your search!

Deb