[Sundoodle]

Does anyone have any explanation of the differences between the F1 labradoodle and the F1 goldendoodle? I keep going back and forth between them - those puppy pictures are SO adorable, but don't understand the true character differences between them. Is the coat different or require different grooming? Is the temperament different or is that dog-dependant? We are a family of 5: mom, dad and three boys ages 7, 10, and 13. My husband has hopes of teaching the dog to hunt/retrieve birds.

Thanks!
Shana
Wisconsin

[movistar]

cant speak for goldendoodles, but can assure you that a labradoodle can and does hunt/retrieve. ckc registers labradoodles so if that is important I would look for hunting lines when choosing otherwise you could end up with a gun shy or hard mouthed dog.

[Doodlesville]

That is a good question, the f1 labradoodles can be smooth like a lab,, wirey look ,,like a irish wolfhound or wavy to curly coated,,all within the same litter,,so you have somewhat of a choice on the look you want
the goldendoodle is more consistant in the wavy curly coat and requires more grooming in general
The Poodle was the orginal water retriver so they all should love water ,and they are so smart and easy to train they have the potential to learn anything!!! If they understand what you are asking of them, they will learn bend over backwards to make you happy!!!
Doodles are the Best!!!!
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Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

[gracielou]

I agree coat wise the Labradoodle F1 might be the best choice since your husband might want to hunt the dog. The coat would be easier to maintain after a hunting trip.
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Valley Center, KS
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[Tink]

Besides the texture of the coat, I'd think you'd have a much wider range of color possibilities with the labs since they have 3 colors to bring to the table versus the Golden which has only varying shades of the one.

If he were going to be looking strictly for a hunting dog and had to choose between a pure lab or a pure golden which would he prefer? That might also help you decide.
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[Doodlesville]

I have blacks phantoms silvers cream tan white, and had one chocolate in over 6yrs of breeding, so lots of colors available in goldendoodles, only color i dont have is partis and thats because i wont breed back to poodle to get them(too much coat for most folks in results of f1b goldendoodles)
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

[Tink]

Really, Nancy! I stand corrected!
That's cool even though I truly didn't expect it.
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[Doodlesville]

It depends on what color the poodle is or has in its background
I have one black one that now has chocolate coming thru almost phantom markings,,or could end up chocolate,, i quit tryin to predict,,LOL
i think i have 2 more that its happening to also,,
Black is a dominant gene, a true silver and true chocolates are born black,,most of my blacks have lightened as they mature, they have liter coloring thruout their coats,,its just beautiful
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

[Maureen]

I love this question!
I have wondered about the differences, because I've never owned a Golden but have had the chance to get Goldendoodles for breeding and have wondered about them.

My question is for breeders....how is it, trying to determine the shedding factor of G'doodles? In Labradoodles there is such a difference between a fleece-coated puppy and a coarser coated puppy. How is it telling the difference in Goldendoodle puppies, at, say, 6wks old?
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[Doodlesville]

normal shed tests, typically a goldendoodle is very light to non
not sure why that is on first generation ,compared to f1 labradoodles
i do f1b labradoodles i do NOT do f1b goldendoodles , since the f1 goldendoodles have the desired coats in general and breeding back makes them have more coats then most want ,,too much like poodle
the f1b labradoodles, have a coat more like the f1 goldendoodles the majority of the time,
heck i have a flat coated F3 labradoodle that doesnt shed ahair,,i just tested him again last week,,so the look of the coat has nothing to do with the shedding factor in my experience
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

[Tink]

This IS neat. Thanks Nancy for sharing your wisdom.
I find this all so exciting and interesting but will be the first to admit I have a LOT to learn. So I come up with many questions.
I'd gotten to know GSDs so well that I could pretty accurately predict how they'd look full grown, but this is a whole different ballgame. LOL

How fun!
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[hmz819]

Not to confuse the issue but I have what they are calling a North American Retriever which is a labradoodle crossed with a goldendoodle. My Maya is only 4 mos old but so far she is a great dog and very easy to train (although like a typical puppy sometimes she has selective hearing)!
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[KingstonTodd]

i'd love to see some pics of Maya!!

[hmz819]

Here's one. You can look at the rest by clicking on http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z19/hmz819/[/img]
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[Doodlesville]