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Maddie Senior Member

Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 297
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: mini labradoodle puppy weight |
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Hi,
I have been shopping for a mini doodle.
What is the average weight for a 7 week old standard doodle?
Who knows what the average weight of a mini-doodle would be at 7 weeks old?
What about a medium doodle?
Thanks
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movistar Senior Member

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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if I remember right my pups were 4-6 pounds at 6 weeks.
does that fit with what your finding?
if you search growth chart on this site I think people have posted their doodles growth.
here is sammy doodles as posted by his mom http://sammydoodle.tripod.com//id1.html
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Maddie Senior Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| For a standard? medium ? or mini? 4-6lbs? |
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movistar Senior Member

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| oh sorry they are standards, but on the smaller size. mom is 22" at shoulder and 38 pounds, dad is 66 pounds |
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6313 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Hi Maddie, my Labradoodles are medium standards...and the pups are (generally) around 9-11 lbs at 7 weeks.
I have no idea what minis will weigh.
You have probably seen this, but I am posting it anyway, just in case...it is the breed standard (ILA) identifying the various sizes:
Size:
Standard: 21 to 24 (not over 25) inches (or about 53-63 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. The ideal size for the female is 21-23 inches and the male is 22-24 inches. Weight range tends toward 23-30 kg (about 50-65 lbs). Oversize is a major fault.
Medium: 17 to 20 (not over 21) inches (or about 43-52 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. The ideal size for the female is 17-19 inches and the male is 18-20 inches. Weight range tends toward 13-20 kg or (about 30-45 lbs).
Miniature: 14 to 16 (not over 17) inches (or about 35-42 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. There is no correlation between height and sex in the Miniature size. Weight range tends toward 7-12 kg or (about 15-25 lbs). Undersize is a Major fault. _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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movistar Senior Member

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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hmmmm maybe I dont remember right then. I cant find where it is written down. Now I am curious, I think I will call the vet and have them look in my chart! |
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6313 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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hahaha...that's what I had to do! I had to find my vet records!
I was a bit surprised...but the records were copies from the vet so I think that they are accurate.
My adult dogs are usually between 40-60 lbs and 19-21 inches. The boys tend to be the largest. _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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Maddie Senior Member

Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 297
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks so much
I really appreciate all your efforts.
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movistar Senior Member

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| LOL well I called! Pups were born April 18 and this visit was May 30th and the pups ranged from 4.1 to 6.2 (what a cow!) pounds. |
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Maddie Senior Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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This is so confusing........
Small standards (adult weight 38lbs. and up??)
6 weeks
4-6lbs.
Medium standards (adult weight 40lbs-60lbs)
7 weeks
9-11lbs
IKA
adult medium 30-45lbs.
my head is spinning
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6313 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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hahahaha, welcome to the "Head Spin Club" of Labradoodle fans!
Not much of this makes sense right now...so much is changing...and believe me, I am no expert on any of the breed standard...but by asking the questions you are helping all of us to get a better handle on the concept. _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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movistar Senior Member

Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1245 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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I am not an expert either, jac knows WAY WAY more than me, but in the poodle world a dogs size is measured soley by shoulder height. Therefore I consider my dogs standard labradoodles regardless of weight.
My Mackenzie is considered a standard poodle because of her shoulder height. Jac shared the current labradoodle standards and my dogs fall into the "standard category" as you can see currently a mammoth labradoodle isnt considered at all. I cant remember the term that was coined in the poodle community when they started getting to big and didnt fit the standards, I think the breeders started calling them royal - i dont know it never made sense to me
Now you have me thinking of my mini red poodle charles I loved him so much. He was a mini all around right height, right build and that little bugger was over weight he weighed 22 pounds and he was suppose to be 14 LOL |
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Maureen Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1939 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: predicting heights vs. weights |
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I'm with you guys, on trying to predict weights. I think it is VERY misleading, and therefore a TOTAL waste of time, and I have proof laying at my feet!
My fit, trim, 20" f1 Doodle weighs 60lbs! She doesn't even look that bulky or Lab-like in her build.
My slim, great-confirmation Poodle is 24" and weighs 45lbs!
In the litter we're looking forward to, the male is 25" and only 50lbs, which is obviously a low weight for an intact male that height. So who can tell what these puppies will weigh? Yet to predict heights that range between the 2 parents is fairly simple, with allowance that one of the bunch might be taller and one might be shorter. _________________ ~Maureen
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Maddie Senior Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Maureen
Please share
How do you predict height?
(this is so interesing to me)
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Maureen Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1939 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, Maddie!
I am sure that there is a more technical way to predict, if, for example you knew the heights of all 4 grandparents, but basically I would tell you the height of Yankee, and the ht. of the sire and tell you is is reasonable to expect your puppy to be within those ranges, with a 1" margin. But that 5" range is actually as much as I can imagine, so that is really the range I would expect. And, I would tell you that males are almost always at the taller range and females at the shorter.
Having said all of that, in a breeding of 2 dogs who were both 24", we did get a puppy who was STILL noticably smaller than all his siblings at 16wks, so I thought it was reasonable to consider him a throwback to the miniature side of their gene pool. It was my 2nd time breeding those 2 parents so I had NO expectation of a miniature Doodle, but he was only projected to be 20" at the most, according to his 4mos. height.
But that one puppy is a real exception to the rule, not something I would mention every time I predict heights.
does this help? _________________ ~Maureen
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