UrgentNeed some help please so I can decide on a dog tonight

Angie · Senior Member Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 295

we got Otto at just under 8 weeks, he is not the coat we wanted curly, he is wavy instead, but we love him to bits, althought he is tiring and always on the go. I agree Jac should have been a poet with her special words.
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dcloward · New User Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 9

Hi all,
So, if I wanted to find a multi-gen that looks like the "Australian Labradoodles" on Rutlands and Tegan Parks' sites - how much would I pay in the US?

My basic data I had a year ago was:
- $1,200 - $1,500 for an F1b and a little less for an F1
- $2500 - $3,000 for a multi-gen/Australian Labradoodle (Rutlands was only $1,500, but it cost over $3,000 by the time you get it here).

This F1b at $750 is in my price range of under $1,000.

Thanks,
Dave

Jac · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject:

Ha! Angie...poet?? Laughing

You are too nice...and very funny! Laughing

Yes, Dave...I think your figures are accurate. You can get Australian Multigens from the US and Canada though. Some breeders have imported the Aussie Multi from Tegan Park and Rutland Manor for their breeding programs. You can also get an American Multigen too.

But even these breeders should be checked out...just because they charge a lot doesn't make them good breeders.

You can get F1 puppies for around $700-1000, depending on location.
The last I checked, Aussie Multis were $2500-$3500 depending on color.

(Of course, none of these prices include breeding rights...)
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Maureen · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject:

agreeing with Jacque...altho I think I'll wait on her reciting poetry to me! Wink

On the rare occasions where I have sold a puppy to someone who thinks they want to breed I have pointed out that they really can't purport to charge the prices an experienced breeder does, and I think you have found clues as to why that is true, in your dealings with the breeder you are working with. So that could account for 25% of the cost discount. Now, if they have not done any genetic screening on their breeding adults then you are joining them in the gamble that your puppy is and will be physically sound to maturity, and that's the rest of the gamble, or discount.

Forgive me, I've forgotten if they have done OFA testing on their dogs' hips and elbows, or any other checking for potential genetic problems.

I have seen f1b doodles for less than $750 in the Denver newspaper but rarely less than $1200-1500 among reputable breeders.

Multigens seem to be getting more and more uniformly priced, and I would prefer a puppy from an American breeder over a puppy being shipped from Australia, personally but I just have my reasons for that. Australian Doodles aren't my preference at all, really.

Please don't take my input or opinions as criticism, because I've been where your breeder was, both with breeding Labs and Doodles, but I've made some choices to take risks on the front end, and eliminate as much risk of heartbreaking choices in puppies after they've been placed. I sincerely hope you have a GREAT, HEALTHY puppy coming to your home! And we live on one income so we have a pretty strict budget so I also understand the draw of an f1b at virtually half price.

We are in the process of putting together before/after pictures of puppies so people can visualize how future puppies might look at maturity. If you aren't sure of your future puppy's coat can I recommend visiting other doodle romps or trying to see as many doodles as you can?
just a thought, and you have my best wishes.
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dcloward · New User Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 9

Thanks again to all.

They have had the testing done on their F1 labradoodle father.

I did do a lot of looking on websites to see what different F1bs looked like, but I never saw a picture of the pup and then one at maturity. Maureen's idea is a great one. The F1b pictures I saw ran the gamut of coats (looks and shedding), so I realize it is still a gamble with an F1b. The pups had all different coats and we selected one with the curliest coat.

I also would prefer to buy a multi-gen from a US breeder. If my prices were accurate, how much is a multi-gen (called Aussie or not) from a US breeder that avoids the $1000 flight cost?

Maureen · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject:

All the multigen breeders I've looked at charge at or around the $2500 mark, plus applicable shipping costs, which are usually closer to $250-300 here, domestically.

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Jac · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:11 am Post subject:

Yep, Maureen is right on! And I love the idea too, Maureen, of a side by side comparison of the same dog.
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bdbanddad · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:16 am Post subject:

Dave, we picked up out F1 Murphy when he was 6 weeks old, that was before I knew that it was better to keep them until 8 weeks. However I will say that I think he is doing pretty well, sure he is a maniacal fur covered bundle of teeth from time to time but with that he is very loveable. His coat started out pretty flat but with time has changed alot. Good luck, this has got to be the coolest dog I have ever had. Jamie
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