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Doodlesville Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: VA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: this just amazed me |
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I get this email from someone i have never heard of
| Quote: | Hello i have a litter of min aussiedoodle puppies i was just wondering if
you could tell me a little bit about there adult personalities. Do you
normaly leave their tails. They are the cuteist little things. Do they
seem to take more of the poodle or aussie trates. I thought i would try
to get a little more info about them before they go so i could let the new
owners know. thank you for your time Jodie |
I was in shock,, i probably shouldnt have even replied to her
but you know me i did,,
| Quote: | I think that is info you should have found out BEFORE you bred the litter,
not to be rude,, but who are you? |
What are these people thinking???  _________________ Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,
Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!! |
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mtd885 Senior Member

Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 736 Location: FLORIDA/San Francisco Ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: |
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What are these people thinking???
THINKING!!! I Think not
As we have seen here on this sight the world has an overabundance of people who became experts--ONLINE!
The information age is here. We all have access to more information than we can absorb. People who read of your success and the success of others on this board, that have no business breeding dogs, convince themselves, THEY TOO CAN DO IT. NFW!!! If I were King I'd make EVERY BREEDER part of a National or State Registry with policing powers to enforce policy. All animals would be registered regardless of genealogy. That would eliminate puppy mills and dishonest breeders like the one we shared an experience with!!! The sincere honest and caring breeders like yourself who test, do research to improve the progeny would be rewarded with REAL ACCREDITATION! _________________ mtd/renee/abby/dr katz
DOODLE ON!
DOODLES OF AMERICA UNITE! |
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Doodlesville Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: VA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Im just heartbroken that these people think you just throw two dogs together and waallaaa MONEY,,
As hard as the ILA as well as others are striving to have AKC recognize this breed, (which they are trying to figure a way to do this by the way)
Im not big on registerys, This is doing my part in not feeding the money making AKC monopoly,, as well as promote MORE Breeders breeding haphazardly they have ruined the ones that are now registere with them "purebred" blahhaa, nothing is purebred all were mixed with other breeds to produce all breeds!!! ( i realize this was not the type you were talking bout)
Not sure what you propose would even ever be possible,
I truly believe that everyone needs to research and question,,feel comfortable with who they purchase from and understand all policies ect
Right now im just shocked ,,why i dont know,,i see it all the time,
I could have said alot more but i just didnt want to even waste my time !! _________________ Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,
Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!! |
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MaxandMe Site Admin

Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 10943 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I have seen many come to this forum asking HOW and what to breed etc
come on......go do research! apprentice with another breeder etc
then ask which tests, why and where to advertise
in what business start up do other people do the work for you???
helllo? hhahaaaaaaaaaa
then there's the breeder already in business like Nancy described that doesn't know a thing ...makes me want to scream!!!
the worst kind of breeding is when someone takes shelter dogs and/or strays , does no testing and just breeds them
ok getting off podium now  _________________ Annmarie, Max,& Peanut
Forum BLOG ARTICLE LINK http://blog.labradoodle-dogs.net/
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France |
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Doodlesville Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: VA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Stay on you podium AnnMarie,, im still fuming,,LOL _________________ Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,
Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!! |
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Doodlesville Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: VA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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OMG OMG she replied to me,,LOL
| Quote: | I found out as much as i could before i bred my fe. There is not many
resources is use for this cross of dog. I tried to e-mail you before
several months ago and it would not go through. i am a vet. tec. I have
raised litters of puppies before. I am sorry i wasted your time and if
you were going to be rude you should have never wrote me back. |
1st i dont think ,,heck im sure im was not as rude as i could be
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she is a vet tech??? now thats scary _________________ Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,
Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!! |
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annieG Senior Member

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2390 Location: Utah and South Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Nancy,
I hope your telling them did some good but I doubt it...There is just no limit to IGNORANCE. _________________ AnnieG & Tanner
Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. ~Roger Caras |
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Doodlesville Senior Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1761 Location: VA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| annieG wrote: | Nancy,
I hope your telling them did some good but I doubt it...There is just no limit to IGNORANCE. |
thanks annie,, reading this email it doesnt seem so,,
just went completly over her head _________________ Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,
Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!! |
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6203 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| mtd885 wrote: | What are these people thinking???
THINKING!!! I Think not
As we have seen here on this sight the world has an overabundance of people who became experts--ONLINE!
The information age is here. We all have access to more information than we can absorb. People who read of your success and the success of others on this board, that have no business breeding dogs, convince themselves, THEY TOO CAN DO IT. NFW!!! If I were King I'd make EVERY BREEDER part of a National or State Registry with policing powers to enforce policy. All animals would be registered regardless of genealogy. That would eliminate puppy mills and dishonest breeders like the one we shared an experience with!!! The sincere honest and caring breeders like yourself who test, do research to improve the progeny would be rewarded with REAL ACCREDITATION! |
Agreed!
I have always been amazed that the states demanding spay/neuter programs don't focus on mandatory registration and documentation of breeding dogs...not sterilization. Accountability, that is the key. Breeders need to be accountable to their customers and the customers need to be accountable to the authorities if their dogs end up in shelters...now, how does that stop this type of "breeder"?
Just like licensing hair dressers or vet techs or others...licensing requires you to qualify by obtaining a level of expertise, it keeps a record of you so that if someone has a valid complaint the state can address it and it makes all breeders responsible for the profession they have selected.
People have been required to register and qualify for many things, and by requiring a registry for dog breeders, we would insure that everyone in that industry would follow the health and safety regulations as well as an ethical code.
Nancy...I agree with you. I was shocked to see what this person wrote! Although, it should not suprise me...it happens all the time and I believe that this person was so innocent that they had no clue it was wrong! That is the problem...I don't think that this person would have intentionally done this wrong...but she, like so many other new breeders, believe that you put dogs together...you get puppies...you sell puppies...you get money. Sad, but true.
It is all in the education process...it takes time, patience and hard heads to get through to these people...but we keep trying...one person at a time. _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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Tink Senior Member

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2028 Location: West central Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Considering how many treat their OWN offspring, I don't see the states being able to do anything about breeders for a long LONG time.
Wisconsin is awful in how lax they are on animal welfare laws. One of the most well known puppy millers who has been in business for 30+ yrs and has had a huge number of complaints filed against him, has had tv crews showing his operation and has been interviewed numerous times about his business is still in operation openly.
I really think the only thing that has ANY chance of helping is to educate the public as much as possible so fewer of them are willing to buy from bad breeders. If you take away the profit, they will stop since that's the incentive they keep aiming for. _________________ www.tinkerdoodle.net
Hickory, Jessie, Ava, and Chip (happy master of his Harem) |
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6203 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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That's true, Tink...I guess we can't legislate morals...*sigh*
I don't think that they will ever pass legislation telling people how to care for their animals, but they can pass legislation that makes the owners financially liable for the puppy if it is abandoned or worse.
I just think that if every commercial breeder (anyone selling puppies, even through newspaper ads) were required to get a commercial license that required good record keeping, such as the names of breeders, microchip or other permanent identificaiton of all puppies born, record keeping showing who bought the puppy and any transfer of ownership to be reported and recorded. Then require all puppy sales entities (brokers, pet stores, etc.) to comply with this too...they would be mandated to deal only with dogs properly identified and registered, and they would have to keep the same records...who bought the pup, etc...THEN when a puppy ends up being abused or abandoned (or lost or stolen) the microchip could trace the dog to all of those people responsible for his/her care and well being. Those who have mistreated or abandoned the dogs will be liable for the damages to that life...breeders will get the dog returned when the match is made and everyone becomes more accountable.
Then breeders and sellers might be more careful about who they sell pups to...because they would still be liable. _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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Tink Senior Member

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2028 Location: West central Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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That would be the ideal Jac, but I can't see it happening in the near future. _________________ www.tinkerdoodle.net
Hickory, Jessie, Ava, and Chip (happy master of his Harem) |
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Jac Site Admin

Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 6203 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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hahaha, Oh, I know that it is a pipe dream, Tink...but I always use every opportunity to say it...you just never know!
By the way, that dog in your avatar is a cutie pie! _________________ jacque.bayley.lexie.chase.rosie.nitos.amelia.dupree.madison.sherwood.gerry www.backporchlabradoodles-jacque.blogspot.com www.backporchlabradoodles.com |
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Tink Senior Member

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 2028 Location: West central Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jac, that's one of my babies from Canada and Moses last fall. He's about 10 months old in the photo. I too think he's quite handsome. _________________ www.tinkerdoodle.net
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