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Can We Revisit Coat Color??

 
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Mhyles30
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Can We Revisit Coat Color?? Reply with quote

Hello All!

I know this has been discussed before but I was wondering how I can aim for chocolate labradoodles.

I have a standard chocolate poodle who will be ready to be bred by the end of the year. For the first litter I am planning to get her bred by a lab so I will get F1 puppies. I found a lab owner, she has two stud labs-yellow and chocolate. Both have hip/elbow and Cerf certifications. The owner had not done any DNA(color testing) on both dogs. I guess I am trying to get your opinions/experiences on breeding which color to what, and see where I will get a better chance in getting chocolate F1's. Do you think I will get a better chance getting chocolates by breeding my poodle to the yellow lab or the chocolate lab? My poodle's pedigree has chocolates and blacks. I was thinking I should get my poodle bred to the yellow lab instead of the chocolate so I won't get so many blacks. I am aiming for chocolate as I am hoping to keep a chocolate female from that litter.

I hope I am not so confusing Sad

Thanks for the response.

Mhyles
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Chocolate to chocolate would give you all chocolates.....someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok without knowing the genetic makeup
meaning bbEe or bbee for a chocoate dog

wait does your chocolate std poodle have a black or pink nose?

the guide on Vetgen is good....shows color of dog with noses
thus giving an Indicator of possible breeding color schems

http://www.vetgen.com/chromagene-coat-color2.html

so what it shows is anywhere from ALL CHOCOLATES to
%age of choc and % of creams (aka reds, tans/yellows/etc)

the last thing to mention though is hidden recessive genes
which is the "roulette" chance in genetics.
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Mhyles30
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Coat color Reply with quote

My poodle has liver/chocolate nose-I am not sure if that is considered pink? Will the Pawsitive ID tell me the color she carries? Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a chocolate standard poodle male with a liver nose (and 5 generations of chocloate and apricot behind him) and just bought a chocolate Lab female with a liver nose (and 5 generations of chocolate with a single black behind her) since my understanding is that this the surest way to get chocolates. I hope I'm right. I did bet my money on it when I bought them. LOL

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meant to say LIVER nose hahhaaaaaaaa
pink is the old term Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: color explanation Reply with quote

Check out this article...it gives examples to help you understand the vetgen chart better.


http://www.laa.org.au/downloads/news_letters/LAA_NEWSLETTER_NOV_2004.pdf

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