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seazr
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Seperation Anxiety Reply with quote

Dakota has always been a very “included” family member in all of our activities. But, since I’ve been off and home so much for –gosh, 8 weeks, now – he is developing a sever case of separation anxiety. The other day, DH and I were going somewhere and Dakota took his usual spot in the backseat. Sean, DS, teasingly told him he had to stay home and reached in to “feign” pulling Dakota out and Dakota tried to bite him!! He was ready to really BITE—not just a threat! Evil or Very Mad We disciplined him, of course, but he is so freaked out at the prospect of not being with us that I don’t think the disciplined would change his outlook. Sean says when’re we’re gone shopping (can’t take Dakota when it’s too hot) and he let’s Dakota out front, Dakota will just run out to the driveway and mope because the truck is gone. Has anyone experienced this?? What to do??
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, we work from home a lot, and one thing we do is even when we're home, put the dogs in their crates in the bedrooms for a few hours each day. that way being "alone" is just part of their daily routine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't experienced it but thanks for the heads up. Next year when we retire we will be home most of the time with Tanner. I can see that we will have to make sure we leave him for a while each day.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emilee wrote:
well, we work from home a lot, and one thing we do is even when we're home, put the dogs in their crates in the bedrooms for a few hours each day. that way being "alone" is just part of their daily routine.

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I am a stay at home mom and I have three boys. Everyone in my house gets some "rest time" the kids go 2 bed to read for 30mins in the afternoon and the dogs go in the cage. I set down for 10min. then I do a quick pick from our day. It is really nice. It gives me some me time. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this problem too in a major way. I've been home now with the dogs all day every day since I quit working a year ago May. Canada and Bella have both gotten far too attached to me. If I leave them home alone they literally wreck and ruin. The drapes are pulled from the windows, the curtains are down and rods bent, if there are any windows left open they will jump through the screens to try to follow me. Bella will poop on the floor in numerous places.

I can put Bella in a run and keep her confined, but Canada I cannot. She makes holes in the fence and comes right through or she will climb it and jump over.

I have to have a babysitter for her or take her with me wherever I go. If put in a crate, she destroys it. I can't walk to the mailbox without her anymore. While in the bathroom she claws at the door and screeches for me to let her in. She doesn't get aggressive, but she will plow through whatever stands between her and I.

It gets real old in a hurry. In the car she's a maniac. She bounces up and over the seat to try to sit in my lap, so I finally bought her a seatbelt harness that at least keeps her in the back seat. But when I go in a store and leave her in the car she's trying to force the windows out and screeches like she's being killed until I'm back in sight. If anyone has a cure for this, I'd love to know 'cause she's absolutely dancing on my last nerve.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, my Tink; Canada has it bad . . . I guess I'm lucky because Dakota only sulks . . . Hopefully, someone will have some good advice . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know it was that bad, sorry Tink. I don't know what to say. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK i cant stand it,, I have to comment here sorry,

let me suggest to you both read
Csear Millian Book >>> Be the Pack Leader
as well as get his DVDS and he now has a book out that lists the problems and directs you to the episodes to correct them

this has been created by you
this will take time to train out of your dog
continuing to allow this behaviour is allowing your animal to rule you and your home !!! this is NOT how it is suppose to be,

If you get in the Mind Set of the dog as Csear Teaches ,
you can train a dog to do anything and be anyway you want him to be


otherwise ,,,roll up a newspaper





go look in the mirror





and hit yourself on top of the head!!!! Shocked Confused Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about something like this...try leaving him home alone for a short period of time everyday...even if you just walk/hobble outside to the side of the house where he can't see you for a few minutes. Leave him with a Kong or something good and then when you return praise him and give him attention. Try to lengthen the period of time a bit everyday. With our work schedules, we actually try to be gone for a bit of time on Saturday/Sunday so they don't get too attached Smile Kirby is worse than Dexter, but is improving a lot!

These dogs are just so in love with being with people...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tink...I know it's a real trying time on you right now with Canada,

1. I do know sometimes a formal OB class might help depending on the trainers you have. Where i live ours have 20 - 30yrs experience and have worked wonders with many dogs. BUT it also means alot of "homework" for you and Canada.
or do some private sessions with a trainer, you and Canada.

and Bella then might also follow suit? and/or you can try working with her later on.

I do know 30min lie downs, & daily training has helped us tremendously
I once had a foster dalmation for 6mos who would destroy the house, his cage and more if i left him...we did MAJOR OB training classes and he did improve tremendously. He even went from being agressive with others to quite tame too.

i am sure this probably isnt what you want to hear as it sounds like you're at your wits end. Hang in there TINK but you really may want to read Cesar's book and consult about OB classes for older dogs
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada came to me having lived full time in an outdoor kennel with Montana as her companion. She seems to have had very little human interaction but is desperate for it. She would be ecstatic if she were the only dog here and had me all to herself. When I'm focusing on her alone she's more cooperative unless I try to restrain her. She's never hostile or aggressive, but is very powerful and just continues to press forward until she's where she wants to be.
I have managed to house train her, she now sits and comes on command, and is very friendly with everyone she meets. But that's really where the good news ends.
She'd obviously never been on a leash, nearly drags me and continues to do so in spite of a gentle leader, martingale, prong collar, or choke chain. I'm not a small person, but with a heart condition, I simply am no match for her because I wear out physically long before she does and any attempt at restraining her is a constant battle.
She's extremely affectionate, wants nothing more than to be in my lap (which I do NOT allow but she keeps trying anyway) or touching me 24/7.

As for obedience classes, our local 4-H leaders offer a single class in the spring of each year to help prepare the kids for 4-H showing. There are no others within 40 miles. I used to take my GSD's and rotties to these but the instructor who used to teach has retired and when my kids took a rottie pup to classes with her replacements, I was sadly unimpressed. They cover the very basics, but any dogs that had any behavior problems were really beyond them.

There are all of 29,000 people in my entire county... we don't have access to many things that more populated areas have. I'd love to be able to bring in a trainer, but can't see that happening. So for now I have a rough and pushy shadow 24/7.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tink I can certainly relate to purchaseing a dog with little human contact ,,I purchased a stud dog that had the same problem,,i ended up teethering him to me for 2mths and i am the only one he will have much to do with, but at least he now enjoys me, everyone else he stilldoesnt trust,
i hope you will read Be the Pack leader ,,,its a wonderful book and will very likly help you with her,
I found a cage on www.petedge.com that is heavy steel, that im sure she wont get out of,
you may need to put her down on the floor ,lay on her if your health will allow it, to begin to show her who is boss, the little booger,
its all correctable, you may need help to do it though
Confused Shocked Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dakota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know it must just be a phase and you just wanted to be with Mom



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like she's velcroed herself to me... it's getting her to move off without freaking out that's the challenge.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TINK...i pm'd you some of the training methods from the OB class i've done with Max, Beau and previous dogs

hope it helps
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