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dreamer728 Senior Member

Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 286 Location: Derry NH
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: doodles for rescue in New England |
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http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10063254
Snow is a four year old, white, de-barked standard poodle mix. We are thinking the mix may be a Labrador.
Snow is very friendly and outgoing. He loves attention but is very good at entertaining himself with toys. Snow is current on all his vaccinations, neutered, micro-chipped, housebroken and crate trained. A fenced in yard (not electric fencing) is required. If barking may be an issue in your home, Snow may be the dog for you.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10029951
Storm is a four year old, black, de-barked standard poodle mix. We are thinking the mix may be a Labrador. He currently weighs 55 lbs.
Storm loves attention and would be a great companion for someone looking for housemate. Storm is current with all his vaccinations, neutered, micro-chipped, housebroken, and crate trained. Storm is a very sweet and sensitive dog that, with a little patience and guidance, will be a wonderful dog. A fenced in yard (not electric fencing) is required for this rescue dog. If barking may be an issue in your home, Storm may be the dog for you.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10187401
Charlie is looking for a family with older children. He is very energetic wanting to play all the time. His perfect family will have someone home most of the day and willing to take him to training. He is adoreable and a very nice boy. Just about 1 yr old. Our organization offers 24PetWatch microchips, which include free registration into the 24PetWatch pet recovery service. For more information visit www.24petwatch.com or call 1-866-597-2424. This pet also comes with 30 days of pre-paid pet health insurance. For more information please visit www.sheltercare.com or call 1-866-375-PETS. _________________ Brooke and Riley (F1b) |
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dreamer728 Senior Member

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lmtoth2 Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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What does it mean to be debarked?? _________________ Leslie M |
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dreamer728 Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| lmtoth2 wrote: | | What does it mean to be debarked?? |
I believe they actually sever the vocal cords so that they can't make more than a quiet whisper noise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debarking
 _________________ Brooke and Riley (F1b) |
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gene Senior Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 7455 Location: youngstown ohio
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| dreamer728 wrote: | | lmtoth2 wrote: | | What does it mean to be debarked?? |
I believe they actually sever the vocal cords so that they can't make more than a quiet whisper noise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debarking
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OMG!! I hope that isn't what they mean......How cruel.....I am beyond words........I physically feel sick!! Who ever would do that to a dog should be "de-barked" themselves!!  _________________ gene , jonah , miko and rumor
http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/jonahfus
"A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down." - Robert Benchley |
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dreamer728 Senior Member

Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 286 Location: Derry NH
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| gene wrote: | OMG!! I hope that isn't what they mean......How cruel.....I am beyond words........I physically feel sick!! Who ever would do that to a dog should be "de-barked" themselves!!  |
Gene, I know and I agree. It's so sad, especially since obviously it was a behavior problem, since the 2 dogs are now up for adoption. And by behavior problem, I mean owner problem. I have learned that it is 99% always the dog owner's fault for problem behaviors - and all those poor dogs probably needed was a little guidance and training.
Now they have been silenced...and are sitting in a shelter wondering what they did wrong.
If our house wasn't so small, I'd rescue them both - Snow and Storm. They are probably sweet lovable dogs just waiting for the right person =(
I wonder if that is a procedure that can be reversed.
| Quote: | Debarking
Surgery on the dog's vocal cords, called debarking, can be done to reduce the barking to a whispery sound. This is a controversial practice, banned in Britain and other places. Some vets will refuse to do the surgery. The dogs do not stop barking. They do not seem to notice the difference, or at any rate continue "barking" as if they still made the noise.
There are different ways to perform the surgery, and it is possible for the vocal cords to grow back and the dog to regain its bark. If the vocal cords are cut, chances are the cords will heal themselves. If they are cauterized, the operation will last longer. Whether it is over a period of weeks or months, it seems that many dogs eventually regain use of their vocal cords. |
_________________ Brooke and Riley (F1b) |
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lmtoth2 Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I was afraid it meant - how terrible I know I get frustrated w/ours for barking but those poor dogs have no way of communicating now  _________________ Leslie M |
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DebBrown Senior Member

Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1242 Location: Oak Park, IL
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dreamer728 Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my god...how can people be so cruel...?? That makes me sick...she's beautiful and should not have had to live that life...
what makes it worse is that there are thousands of dogs just like her...
 _________________ Brooke and Riley (F1b) |
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dreamer728 Senior Member

Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 286 Location: Derry NH
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dgeggis Senior Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Carlisle,MA
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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I may be naive, but wouldn't a vet have to perform this procedure.
That would seem unethical. _________________ Diane |
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dreamer728 Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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yes a vet does perform the procedure. and it seems highly unethical to me. it should be illegal IMO. _________________ Brooke and Riley (F1b) |
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CherylB Junior Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| dgeggis wrote: | I may be naive, but wouldn't a vet have to perform this procedure.
That would seem unethical. |
Unfortunately, I've read this - and some more graphic and horrifying things on some websites -
At some puppy mills, however, it is reported that debarking is accomplished by shoving a large, metal pipe down a dog's throat. This is done to destroy the folds of tissue that close the windpipe and allow the animal the bark normally. Done this way, debarking is accomplished without anesthetic, and can result in severe complications, including death. |
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Calimom Senior Member

Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 1870 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is making me very sad. I hope all this poor abused dogs find loving forever homes. It just makes me ill to think someone would do these things to any creature. Group hug!!!!!! _________________ Meg and Cali
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Linz81 Senior Member

Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 112 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am absolutely heartbroken over this thread! I love this forum, but I hate hearing all these horror stories. I have gotten to where I just quit reading when they start going down this path, I guess sometimes ignorance is bliss!
Where is Oprah to save the world when you need her???
And what Vet would perform such a procedure!  _________________ Lindsie, Cheri, Maggy, Skeet and Lea
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