[bridgedan]

hello to all, im on here to get some info from like minded labradoodle owners, we have decided to research labradoodles for our family pet the main reason is because i need a dog that does not loose its hair as i suffer from sinus, but absolutely adore my mums pure labby, and would love one like her!!!! without the shedding of couse, i was searching the web and found some really nasty forums in which people were putting down the labradoodle breed bla bla calling them designer breeds and all other nasty things and one of the right offs about them was that you are never to sure about there coat until they are 12 months old whether or not they will shed or not, curly or straight you never can tell? soooooo i would like to know from you guys if this is true and if so which coat is most likely not to shed when we view them as a pup, the other thing i found was that you can get different sizes, i like the idea of the medium size Labradoodle are these around the size of a pure labby?? or a little smaller
hope someone can help
Bridgette

[lauren46]

Hi!
If you are looking for the most allergy-friendly, you should go with an F1B Labradoodle (poodle x F1 labradoodle). The curlier the coat, the less likely it is they will shed. There are no guarantees though, but everyone in my family has allergies and we dont have a problem with Riley (F1B) and he is more fluffy than curly.
I'm not really sure about sizes, we have a standard and we didnt research smaller sizes because he's my hunting dog.


Hopefully this will help!
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Lauren and Riley (F1B Labradoodle)

[L's Mom]

People are so funny, what they fuss about, aren't they? Designer Dogs? Funny thing is... weren't all purebreed dogs at some point intentionally created??? Anyways... A medium LD will be about the height I think of a lab, but not as thick... far as the coat? I think the further in generation s you go, the more you are able to control the end result of the coat... I have also heard that f1b's were great for non-shed... Lucas is an ALF2, and he does not shed... I am sure you will get some great advice here, there are many breeders who I am sure will chime in!
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Jenny, Sam, Lucas, & Della

[BAD]

There has been lots of discussion here on shedding. I'm sure if you do a search you will find lots of information.

In general there is less shedding as you get into 2+ generation labradoodles. And as you get into the 2+ generations you get more and more poodle and less lab.

We have an F1 Labradoodle, which means she is 1/2 half lab and 1/2 poodle. We wanted more lab influence. But, she does shed. She is only 27 lbs, so she sheds less that our labs did. But that's more about size than coat.

Good luck.
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Barbara & Abbey
Northern California

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[MaxandMe]

OK i have severe allergies and sinus problems and my one son has bad asthma ontop of his allergies.......my other two kids allergies as well

Max is a f1 labradoodle that sheds minimally, has the scruffy look and now at 21mos old he barely sheds at all

Peanut and Beau are f1 Goldendoodles that do NOT shed at all


none of us have any problems with our allergies in any way
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Annmarie, Max,& Peanut
Forum BLOG ARTICLE LINK http://blog.labradoodle-dogs.net/

"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France

[Maureen]

hi, and WELCOME, Bridgette!

First of all, OBVIOUSLY those of us on this forum are totally biased AGAINST the other forum you found! There's a whole community of Doodle-lovers, ...what other breed has its own "Romps" ??!
We call them Doodle Romps and we love to get together!!
If you can find a Doodle Romp in your area that's a great way to see lots of different coats and sizes.

Email me anytime, and I'll even give you my phone number (in email) but all the people here are correct, in various points: Many f1's do shed YET are not allergy triggers! But as a breeder I do like F1b's and their silky non-shedding coats. And fyi, it's really not about the curl but the texture of the coats, that tips us off about future shedding. There's a distinct difference in the texture of a Lab coat and a Poodle coat, as well as other distinctions.

By the way, I know what you mean about the Labrador personality! I love that our girl Copper, who's an F1 (50/50) has such a Labrador-like personality! So even tho her puppies are (in theory) 75% poodle, I can count on plenty of that Labrador personality coming their way!

I hope this helps......and again, WELCOME!

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~Maureen
LabradoodleRanch@aol.com
www.LabradoodleRanch.com

[bridgedan]

thanks for your replies, i live in Australia and i have not seen the term F1 labradoodles on the sites that i have been researching, but am aware that the 50/50 lab x poodle do shed but not as much as full labs, but if i was to get a backcross labradoodle which is the term i have seen in aussie and i think that means labdoodle mum and dad, will my baby have more of the personality of the poodle and not much of the lab personality!!and if that is the case what are there personalities like and are they yappers, i have two kids which are so busting do have a dog but am also a day carer for children so my pup will be around children
thanks guys

[bridgedan]

this is one of the other forums that i saw in australia about the negs of cross breeds and the labradoodle coats,

I'm not much for cross breed dogs i don't see anything wrong with them i just prefer purebreds.As for shedding only purebreds poodles etc etc don't loss the hair there hair keeps growing so the only way to get rid of that dead hair is to brush it out and get them clipped.I was talking to a few breeders and they have friends who own labradoodles,and maltipoos and have said there owners now regret getting them cause they shed alot of hair.One lady has to brush her dog 3 times a day and get it clipped every 4 weeks to controll the shedding.People are breeding the poodles to labradors,boxers,golden retrievers etc to produce more dogs that don't shed.They have not succeded to produce a non shedding out of there cross breeding.I could be wrong this has came from a breeder and a person who owns a labradoodle.

With purebreds you know what lines you are getting also you know what temperments they will most likely have.You with also know what health issues the breed has.Where crossbreeds you don't know what lines they have,you don't know what there temperment will be like,and you won't know what health issues they can get.I'm not saying i know all of this but this is just the way i feel about cross breeding.What i heard on the news says every breeder has to have a permit to know breed there dogs sort of like a licence to breed.They said they were trying to stop irresponable owners breeding there pets and also to stop cross breeding.They were also complaining about people selling cross breeds as much as a purebred dog.So they have said if anyone breeds cross breds they have to be sold very cheap or given away.Likeabout a year and half back me and my parents were at a market and this guy was trying to sell great dane X bull mastiff for $900 for that about of money you could probably go out and buy a purebred great dane or bull mastiff not quite sure what the going rate is for them.All i am saying is people are trying to make money by cross breeding and the council is trying to stop that.Back when i was 5 years old people weren't even selling cross breeds they were giving them away to good homes.But now there trying to make money out of it.Some of what i am saying could be wrong but this is how i feel about cross breeding.TEll me this why spend $900 on a cross bred when you can buy a purebred.I have seen plenty of cross breds around my area a golden retriever x labrador with at 7 months old came down with hip dyspalsia,and cataracts.Other cross breeds i have seen haven't had anything wrong with them just lack of training from there owners.

[Maureen]

ignorance! anecdotes!

this is what I know after lots of litters of F1b's:
the genes between the 50/50 parent are split with the Poodle parent. Some puppies get ALL poodle genes, in reference to coat! Some puppies - maybe 20% - get the shedding gene from their Labradoodle parent. But that's 80% that don't shed any more than a poodle does! And most of that 80% have a softer wave than the tight spiral wool of a Poodle.

Both breeds/dogs have a devoted, loving personality, in my experience. Poodles are sometimes not as naturally outgoing but that can be trained, of course.

Have you contacted Melinda of Sunset Hills to ask her about any early-generation Doodle breeders in Oz? Just a thought.....

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LabradoodleRanch@aol.com
www.LabradoodleRanch.com

[blueteal]

Bridgedan



Good luck finding your Doodle
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Sue & Denver
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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
- Josh Billings

[Doodlesville]

Unfortunatly NO breeder can guarantee you a non shedding allergy friendly doodle,, You cant tell by the Look or even the feel of a puppy coat no matter what any breeder is telling you,

You will have to get the pup home in YOUR environment to be sure

these are ALL after all hybrids,
the MOST likly to be non shed and allergy friendly is the F1B Labradoodle

Also you wont know for sure if any pup is allergy friendly until the pup gets its adult coat in between 8-12mths old

Are you allergic to Dander or Saliva?
have you been tested?
Females will cause less reaction if you are allergic to saliva they have a lower PH

If you were adopting from me,,my first question to you would be if you had a allergic reaction would that mean you would have to rehome your pup?
if the answer is yes, do you think that would be fair to the pup?

can you allergies be controlled by meds?

are you willing to do what ever it takes,, even shots to control you allergies in order to keep your pup

All these questions need to be addressed Before!!! you adopt a puppy
Its heartbreaking to have to rehome a pup for problems that could have been addressed and avoided before the pup was placed

sorry so long, just my thoughts concerns for every doodle out there!!!
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles & Labradoodles
www.Doodlesville.net

[MaxandMe]

OH i meant to add
i've had doodles for 1.5years now...........allergies have NEVER kicked in and my son's either along with his asthma staying dormant.
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Forum BLOG ARTICLE LINK http://blog.labradoodle-dogs.net/

"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France

[bridgedan]

well i have a found a breeder in aus that looks great they live an hour away so we are going to visit and play with th eparents and check out the different sizes, the three sizes are mini, medium and standard, does anyone know what these sizes compares to other beeds eg, mini= maltese size, medium=staffy, and standard=lab would that be around the sizes im looking at?
Any way im getting excited she sells her pups for $1500, aus dollars does that sound normal??
Thanks again
Ps i loved the video of the smiles gorgeous

[deepnite10]

WHY OH WHY !! do people bash a dog?..maybe they talk down cuz they re jealous..or maybe they really think that having a AKC will make them
feel better about themselves..

Toby is a F1b..but, i could care less what generation he is..he s the most adorable dog i ve ever raised..

[MichelleB]

Brodie is a F3, He sheds alot I am not sure why this is...
I was told on another forum ( in the U.K. ) that all Doodles can shed.
I was also told by my sister in law that you just have to wait and see till they get their adult coat. ( she has a F1 ) I am just as confused as you might be. I was told by my breeder that the higher the generation the less likely they are to shed. I don't care, I just love Brodie no matter how much he sheds
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