[Doodlesville]

[Doodlesville]

Leslie, take it from me, a 40lb bred to a 40lb doesnt guarantee a smaller dog a larger gene can crop in there at any time,,

learned that valuable lesson from experience, now i address what would happen if the pup got bigger then predicted,
i do not want to place a dog in a home where if they say were to have size restrictions (apt, ect) that they would have to find another home for the dog, that isnt fair to the dog,
i try to address all issues,,give every scenario before the pup is placed in a home,, the term mini is very deceptive, and i so hate using that term any more, especially with the retriver mixes, (labradoodle or goldendoodle)
with the aussiedoodles i will say mini medium,,
aust shepherds come in all three size,
toy mini and standards
I only raise mini and standard aussiedoodles, the toys are too fragile
and medium (which would be the 40lb size) under 22"
and standards over 22"
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles & Labradoodles
www.Doodlesville.net

[blueteal]

Denver's Mother was 70 lbs and Denver's Father around 55 lbs
Denver is 101lbs.....................I wanted a large Doodle
so I was very happy.
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Sue & Denver
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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
- Josh Billings

[MaxandMe]

Max is bigger than expected at 26in tall and aprox 80lbs ...we love him this size


His mom was a small short stocky lab and the dad a tall lean std poodle
Max was supposed to be more like 23in tall and 50-55lbs hahhahaa
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"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France

[Libby&Jofi]

Regarding the reference to Schnoodles - I saw one the other day and they are soooo cute Jofi had a riot playing with him (until the schnoodle got a bit randy). The owner got hers from America - she said she wanted something smaller than a miniature labradoodle, hence she went for a schnoodle.

[Linda]

I think the Schnoodles and Cavipoos are adorable. I'm not sure what their temperament is like, though. The Cavalier King Spaniel I know is very sweet, but also a little fearful of everything, but that could be an individual thing.

[Doodlesville]

I dont know much bout the schnoodles, other then schnazers are terriers, Enough Said,,LOL

i love Cavaliers, but they do have problems with cancers (along with many other health issues) i would love to breed cavipoos, but, there is just way to many health issues in that breed,
i researched it for 2yrs, i will likely end up getting one but it would just be my pet, I dont want to put pups on the ground knowing what i now know about the breed
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles & Labradoodles
www.Doodlesville.net

[Jac]

I want to explain that the reputable breeders charging more for minitures are probably able to do that because they took the downsizing slowly and did not try to breed a toy Poodle to a standard sized Labradoodle. This can cause soooo many problems with health. So, I would look for a breeder who didn't deviate more than 4 inches in height for the parents.
I have a standard Labradoodle and she is only 47 lbs. She has had pups that reach 70 lbs or more, but she has also had small pups that reach only about 40-45 lbs. I can usually tell by 8 weeks which are going to be small, but I can't judge the size of the larger pups.
You can probably find cheaper pups, but you may be paying a larger price in the long run due to health issues...so be very careful.
I am planning on breeding smaller dogs but I am going to use Moyen Poodles and they are small standards...so my "minis" will still be 30-45 lbs.
I don't have a clue why any breeder would advise against F1B puppies unless they are Australian Labradoodle breeders. (The founder is really against F1Bs...but, heck...they had to start there too! LOL)
I personally love my F1Bs and find that they have better coats and look more like Labradoodles than some Australian Labradoodle pups that look very much like Poodles. (Not all...just some...and I would not ever tell you not to buy an AL...they are great dogs too.)
I think that any breeder saying that about F1Bs would be a breeder who doesn't sell them and they don't want to lose your business...I think that is so wrong of them.
The testing is very important and you can find a good explanation about recommended testing on this site if you do a search for it...Ann Marie recently posted a good thread asking breeders what they test for...you can also look on the ALAA web site... www.ilainc.com and find the recommended testing...also on the Premium Breeder's site for Goldendoodles and Labradoodles.
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[Doodlesville]

Great INFO Jac ,,
however as far as the Premium breeders lists there have been some puppy mills exposed from those lists as we all know ,,

its important for everyone to do their research and feel good about the breeder they choose ,dont rely on the "List" bear in mind that just bout all are are paid listings and/or very biased in their accpetance of breeders, owner recommended or not,
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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles & Labradoodles
www.Doodlesville.net

[Jac]

Yes, I agree, Nancy...you can't just look for membership in any organization and expect quality.
I used to belong to ALAA and decided that it was not that useful to me...other than to "show that I am reputable". But my reputation speaks for itself and I don't need membership to promote my ethics or to be forced into being ethical...it is a moral commitment that I make to myself, my pups and my customers.
I do belong to the Premium Breeder's site because Sharon does require that you test your animals...but the results and what you do with them are your business decision. I like that...she does not try to enforce specific acts, other than to test your animals. Because of this, I believe that her site is the most reliable for "what you see is what you get." But, as always, you (the buyer) must do the work and make a decision about the quality of your breeder based on what is important to you. If you judge solely by memberships, you are misguided. (In my opinion.)
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[Linda]

I PM'ed you Doodle 001 (Just look in the blue header up top of page and click on 'You have 1 new message) Please keep us posted!

[Doodlesville]

[Maureen]

I'm going to jump in here.......setting aside the Association question and going back to the price issue: honestly, I have searched my own heart and soul over your question, because I have F1b Miniature Labradoodle puppies. But the fact is that they are more expensive to produce, with all the Lab/Vet bills, the time to raise and choose a smaller F1, and the testing is not any cheaper for Miniature Poodles than it is for Standards. So if you want a non-shedding, fleece coated puppy, How about a Cockapoo? Or a smaller mixture?
In any given F1b litter (like mine) we have puppies that are more scruffy, and likely to have some shedding, and they are priced under $1200 for our Miniature puppies if or when any fit that description. But they are still more expensive than F1 Standards because of all the costs involved up front.

The truth is that there are lots of things I would like that I can't afford so I have learned to compromise.

Or have you found a breeder who has what you are looking for?

[Jac]

You have made some really good points, Maureen.
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[Maureen]