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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="elisa"]Hi, Everyone! Thank you for all the great

We're in South Florida - are any of you in this area or aware of any breeders down here?

Where are you located? I'm in Hallandale we could meet at a dog park for an hour or so and you can check Abby (F1B) with your kids to see if they react to her coat...mtd
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be great! Do you have a local dog park you go to - we'd meet you wherever you said.

Did you get her from a breeder down here?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will really want to be careful meeting at a dog park. The other dogs there might trigger an allergic reaction that has nothing to do with Abby. Perhaps there's a mutually close place that you've taken your kids to that you know won't cause allergic reactions. Because there could even be environmental problems. I know here in CA the seasonal allergies are starting to get bad because it hadn't rained in a week, so everything started to bloom.... just things to keep in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gracielou, I think I privately mailed you through the system, but if you didn't receive it, please let me know.


As for the dog park, that's a good point, but my kids are generally okay around dogs outside as long as they don't touch, so I don't think the other breeds would bother them if we found a corner to just play with the labradoodle. And right now, their environmental allergens are under control, thankfully.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get her from a breeder down here?

No I got her from a puppy mill in Canada that's listed as a "premium" breeder--YEAH RIGHT! Rolling Eyes I can meet you at Poinciana dog park on Dixie Hway 10am on Wednesday. PM me to confirm...m BTW Abby is a Goldendoodle not a Labradoodle if that matters.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome, elisa,
you are getting great help but I thought I would just join in on welcoming you.

There is a difference in the coats of puppies at 6wks between those that most likely won't shed and those who might. A good breeder can help you or if you meet Abby and she has the silkier coat you'll see what you are looking for. An average of 8 out of 10 in an F1b litter will be non-shedding, in my experience. I wish you could come to my house and I would give you the tutorial I give everyone about coats texture and shedding!

There are fine breeders in Florida so I hope you find some puppies to choose from that you are comfortable with. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I appreciate all of the help.

In the F1B dogs that do shed, are they shedding the equivalent of lab fur that would cause allergies? Do they shed a lot (our lab shed a lot - we were getting her shaved at the end in an effort to minimalize the allergies and keep her, but it didn't work)?
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elisa wrote:

In the F1B dogs that do shed, are they shedding the equivalent of lab fur that would cause allergies? Do they shed a lot (our lab shed a lot - we were getting her shaved at the end in an effort to minimalize the allergies and keep her, but it didn't work)?


I honestly don't think that the f1b puppies who seem to shed, or seem likely to shed are shedders like a lab. We have an f1 doodle-girl who DOES SHED a ton! The fur is longer (prettier on her) than Lab fur but it's pretty much always coming off. We don't own a slightly-shedding f1b but we've sold the ones we see that way in a reduced price as if they were f1's because we're just not sure. And I have been blessed to follow up on some of them and the shedding is negligible.

That's just my experience, but feel free to email me and I'll send you pictures of example puppies, at 6-8wks and grown up.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about funny timing - last night, we also looked into goldendoodles after a few people here mentioned them. I added one web site of a Florida breeder to my favorites. This morning, my mom had a dentist appointment, and it turns out our dentist is picking up his new goldendoodle puppy from that exact breeder (4 hours away) this weekend!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now THAT's What I'm talking about with a connection!

keep us posted! Most of the Colorado Goldendoodle breeders have full waiting lists but maybe there's that one special puppy for you!

I have no idea how to tell about shedding with Goldendoodles....ask the other breeders on here for more information since they all have grown puppies they could check/track I think Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, for those of you that said you have goldendoodles, any different info I should know than the labradoodles?

At this point, we've contacted some breeders of each, and I think our decision may just come down to who has dogs in our area that we can test the kids around or who will let us come to them to test the allergies. I can tell we'll be happy with both breeds from a temperament standpoint.

Thanks again! I'm amazed at what I've learned in just one day on this site.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF you go with a F1 GD go with the shorter thicker fleece coat
peanut is the cream fleece coated one in my picture to the left
she does NOT shed at all.

Most GD puppies by 6 to 8 weeks that are fleece have shorter hair, cottony soft, almost like a two layer coat like a golden retriever,
and do not shed on clothes.

NOW if you're allowed letting your children and/or anyone with allergies hold the puppy, let the puppy kiss you, rub your face in puppy and also then rub your face with your own hands....usually within a shortime if you are going to be allergic your face and/or eyes will itch, might sneeze,
later on may have a post nasal drip etc

with the GD's i never got this....and both are f1's
Max is a barely shedding f1 LD that when he was losing puppy coat , if i kept up sweeping and vacuuming for that time period my allergies were good.
otherwise my teenagers and i feel soooooooooooo lucky to have doodles that don't affect our allergies and asthma Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! So none of yours are F1B? Most of the breeders I've talked to have either F1B or F2B litters coming up, both gd and lb. My understanding is that the backcrossing with the poodle makes them even more allergy-friendly?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'm going to ask my last round of questions, b/c my hubby and I are now getting highly confused.

As far as allergies go, does anyone know of a ranking comparing Australian Labradoodles, American Labradoodles and Goldendoodles? Or are they all so hypoallergenic that it doesn't matter?

We've heard from breeders of all 3, and two have a puppy available now, which I wasn't expecting (I thought we'd be wait-listed and be waiting until summer or later, but apparently 2 breeders had larger litters than anticipated), and we're so confused as to which way to go. I am assuming that we'll be thrilled with any of the above - allergy and temperament-wise, but I remember hearing something about the Australians being better for allergies?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks! So none of yours are F1B? Most of the breeders I've talked to have either F1B or F2B litters coming up, both gd and lb. My understanding is that the backcrossing with the poodle makes them even more allergy-friendly?


haha...ok so from what I've heard, a F1 goldendoodle is similar to a F1B labradoodle in terms of shedding. I have met a few F1B goldendoodles and all have really really tight curly coats (more like a poodle). One lady at our dog park has a F1B goldendoodle because of severe allergies (they are all fine w/their dog).

Our Dexter is a F1B labradoodle (father is a poodle, mother is a F1 labradoodle) and barely sheds if at all...I've had people w/allergies to our house and nobody has ever reported a problem. I think you need to find a curly or wavy (fleece) coat doodle...F1B is more likely to be nonshedding (but there are many F1s who also do not shed).

I don't know much about australian multigens, but I think I hear they do not shed. You will likely have to pay much more for an australian, but if that's not an issue I think they are fine for allergies too.
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