American Labradoodle vs Australian Labradoodle

Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1903 Location: VA

also alot to be considered with a intact male, testicular cancer in a high percent, just one reason to nueture,

I wouldnt consider breeding ifi were in your shoes knowing what i know
it has nothing to do with prestige, its alot of work and there are NUMEROUS breeders out there that dedicate themselve wholeheartedly
nope no prestige here,,just lots of poop ,,LMAO
if you think you will make money ,,LOL think again
Breeders wont use your dog they normally have their own, and have invested time and money in testing etc,,

Im just amazed that you were allowed this dog without a signed contract or anything, especially the lines it has, i would really wonder to myself WHY? there has to be more then you know,,
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1903 Location: VA

No no real tone
just tottally amazed that this has happened,
can see TP and RM ,shivering at this point,
i know i would be if this had happened to one of my dogs

I am dedicated 24/7 to my dogs, I have invested too much money to ever break even at this point,
just people thinking in the back of their mind that breeding is just throwing two dogs together and goin to town is all it takes, because they have a "pretisgious line dog" , you havent considered everythign there is so much more involved ,not to mention committment to the families that adopt the pups you have produced,,

I need to step away from this convo ,, Im frustrated at this point, and will be shaking my head for awhile on this one

I might suggest asking a whole HEAP of questions as to why where and how this dog was put out ,sounds like there is somthing fishy here and you dont want this to come back and haunt you
do you realize that RM and TP breeding dogs avg cost is 10.000 plus?
I would be worried that this could come back and bite you in the butt,
that the dog was stolen and rehomed,, gosh i just cant imagine this happening!!!
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Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

MaxandMe · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:

ERIKA i'd like to say many of us at 1st think it'd be great to breed our doodle especially if they come from great blood lines, excellent temperament etc

HOWEVER , breeding is not an easy business , quite expensive and very demanding of time and committment, it becomes your whole life and a business too. Then there's testing, shots, set up, and the 24/7 round the clock care and more as other breeders know a heck alot more than i do.

My uncle bred dogs his whole life.
I also socialize all the litters my breeder has too.
I also grew up a farm both regular farm and dairy farm.
Breeding is a hard business but has its rewards...you have to LOVE it in order to keep up with it Very Happy

I'd say for now enjoy your new aussie doodle baby!! Very Happy

there's alot of research to do and set up before breeding, then again that is a personal choice
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KingstonTodd · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject:

elh1015 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject:

Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1903 Location: VA

I see, who would you stud him to? are your prepared for the costs of testing? the time researching his background pedigree, testing of the parents, grandparents, wheither there is terriers or poodles in the line? the fights it may take to obtain just that info from the orginal source?

I cant imagine any reputable breeder placing a fully intact male without a strict nueturing contract ,in a situation or not, "normal people" (ie not breeders Laughing

) just really dont have any idea in what goes into breeding dogs and the commitment it takes, pedigree knowledge ,,testing, ect ect

also leaving your dog intact increases his chances of getting testicular cancer,, a intact male dog is not always the best family pet either,
I guess im just not makeing my points clear ,,sorry for that Im tryin,,

Can someone help me out here please Rolling Eyes

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www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!

elh1015 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject:

No worries, I should have just asked more questions of the person who raised the question to me in the first place. So I will do that.
Thanks
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seazr · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject:

elh1015 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject:

Thank you. I haven't felt picked on, but thanks. I fully admitted that I didn't know anything, thus I asked questions.
I just have no knowledge of how all this etiquette and ethics of breeding works and also I really just wanted to know what is involved if I kept him intact.
I have a better understanding now, plus I know where I will go for some further discussion, so thanks.
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annabelles mom · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:16 am Post subject:

I've been reading this interesting thread on Oski, who sounds like a very expensive pup.

I'm curious, and forgive me if you posted and I missed it, but were you given the papers for Oski so that you can register him - you mentioned thefts of dogs - I'd want to make sure all the T's are crossed and I's dotted ?

I agree with the neutering unless you plan on doing all the genetic testing - I'm not a breeder but I have learned a bunch from the breeders here and reading other info on doodles, that documented genetic testing and lineage is very important to insure to avoid linebreeding/inbreeding

Good luck whatever you decide
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elh1015 · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:39 am Post subject:

I was given a packet of papers- some info on training and feeding, and copies of his parents lineage and test results for eye and hip tests.

Oski came from someone who legitimately owns his mother, who she purchased from Rutland. His father is legitmately co-owned by her and another breeder. She intended to keep him for herself, then had a family crisis to handle and decided it was best for him to go to another home, she put the word out to friends and that's where I came in. She said that she did not have the need for the money nor the time to advertise and screen potential buyers. Simple as that.

Forget about intact vs. neutuered and all that. I've got that figured out now. I'd like to move forward and post in other parts of this site questions about grooming, feeding and share general Oski-cuteness pics. But if he is now considered Oski The Shady Background Dog, then that is very unfortunate and a mistake on my part for ever sharing what I thought was a nice story about how we were so lucky to aquire a great dog.
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Doodlesville · Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1903 Location: VA

Well I certianly cant wait to see pics of this Fellow!!!
and hope to help with any info i can provide
whatcha waiting on post those pics woman!!!!! Very Happy

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Nancy at Doodlesville(Virginia)
www.Doodlesville.net
Aussiedoodles, Goldendoodles &
F1/F1B Labradoodles,

Breeding only Early Generation Doodles!
Keeping the Original Goals for this breed First!!
We do NOT Breed Australian Labradoodles!!