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When is the proper time to breed
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JonathonD
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Jonathon.
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Doggonecrazy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him either. Wink
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gene
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok....I thought I remembered something on this....she posted this on three different categories at the same time, and yes she is either in HS or younger. Other postings were responded to......
http://labradoodle-dogs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=48151&highlight=#48151

http://labradoodle-dogs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=48150&highlight=#48150

A lot of us who were active on the forum at this time realized that her puppy was just that....a puppy, and that she was very young. Her puppy was 17 weeks old a month before she posted this.

I'm sorry this turned into a big fiasco.....but this original post was from August, and if anyone who was here then with a problem on the response, or lack there of...why wait til now to voice your opinion?? Just curious......

Also, it didn't stop her from posting if you check her postings after this
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vicky...
No, Zoeybear didn't ask for breeding help, only an answer to her question...and it is possible, I suppose, that there was nothing more to it (although it begs the question, why ask?) still, the post from Zoeybear was dormant for a very long time until Jonathan decided to blindside Linda for her response.
Considering that Linda has been the backbone of this forum (along with Diane) I felt that, as a long-time benefactor to Linda's guidance, I wanted to stand up for her AND I felt that it was necessary.
I am sorry if this offended you or anyone else reading the posts.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jac, I didn't notice the dates until you mentioned it. I don't know why Jonathon brought it up now either.

I also remember way back, and there were a lot of questions asked from budding breeders back then too. However, I don't remember the answers having the same tone as what I have been reading lately. (Not Linda's particularly but answers in general)

I have also noticed several new breeders posting that have bred litters and have not yet had their breeding stock tested, etc.. That is very frustrating, so I do understand the breeders' response. I just think there may be a hair trigger on the response is all. In the Zoeybear example, perhaps asking if she was intending to breed, or similar conversation before assuming that was the intent, and launching into the "speech" Wink might have a friendlier reception.

Just my thoughts on all this.
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JonathonD
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Vicky - well said - there has been a change of tone even since I've been around the forums. To be honest, I don't even know how I stumbled upon this post. I didn't realize it was that old until someone pointed that out. Either way, I stand by my opinions and was happy to find out I wasn't the only one who felt the way I did. (For all we know, this person was posting because they were afraid of an accidental breeding - or attempting to avoid this, etc.)

It's clearly an agree-to-disagree situation - which I'm completely fine with. I didn't expect open arms on this one. Truth be told, we all like doing what's right and from most of what I read, many of us agree on proper practices and do similar things regarding whelping, testing, etc. Except for those darned dew claws and that pesky Australian Doodle v. American question Wink kidding - stay on topic.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know for me searching and reading previous posts has helped me learn
and Reinforce WHY I am TESTING Beau and then deciding if he'll be studded out but at the same time i am making sure i know both sides of breeding thus, i work closely with my own breeder for the past year.
almost like an apprenticeship role.
Luckily she lives down the road from me. (that max, peanut and beau came from). so i get to share in all phases of breeding.
i love it! Very Happy


AND we have also had some newbie breeders or those wanting to breed that come in and out like a breeze trying to get much info as possible and some do not intend to do testing at all and others didn't realize they should test to ensure health temperament and intelligence.

what's the saying 10% genius, 90% hard work
you get my drift hahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So if the tone has changed it could be this forum has grown tremendously with numerous questions asked , some redundantly, and other times
it's hard to keep up hahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ps check your dates hahhaa i know i once answered an old post that no one realized was unanswered for months hahahaaaaaaaaa
we all got a good laugh
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