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Old 02-09-2010, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey breeders, check out thins link: http://webcanine.com/2007/17-points-...when-breeding/. It has some interesting advice.

One point I found food for thought was the advice in the sibling contribution section that advises that 2 puppies per litter should be involved in breeding in order to combat a loss of diversity in the gene pool. I kind of disagree, even though I am a big proponent of genetic diversity. I think that advice should be changed to "per pairing" instead of "per litter" since it is a good idea to have a test litter between two dogs and see what the pups turn out like before deciding to keep any to beed from, since the pairing may or may not make good puppies.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Todd,
This is wordy can you give us the gyst of what this article is about? Its not about breeding brother to sister is it?
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is wordy can you give us the gyst of what this article is about? Its not about breeding brother to sister is it?
It really is worth a read if you have time, even just read the bolded section headings and then read the sections you have some interest in. The sections I found most interesting were "BALANCE OF SIRES AND DAMS ", "INCESTUOUS MATINGS", " SIBLING CONTRIBUTION", "OUTCROSS MATINGS", and to a lesser extent "GENERATION TIME".
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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WOW! I absolutely agree with this article, as I understand it.

The terms are daunting, certainly, but if you get past the scientific jargon to the essense of the article it is really fascinating...and especially as it applies to Doodles.

I understand why they say to keep 2 pups from every litter...but they do go on to say, later in the article, that this is not possible for every breeder and, in fact, is not likely possible for huge breeding programs. I have often considered this theory...and have considered creating a "co-op" of breeders with similar ideals and quality lines...and this would be a good start.

I fear, as the article states, that the artificial means of breeding will lead to creation of inferior or unhealthy lines...if we are breeding dogs that can't copulate, can't whelp without C-sections, can't care for their young, or simply selected for the breeder wants to carry on one specific line forever, then are we not dooming the breed as a whole?

I also like the part about looking to genetic faults that, but for artificial means, the dog would be condemned to die or have a disability or other life-threatening issue.

Very interesting article, Todd, thanks for posting it!

I am going to contact you privately to have a more complete discussion.
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This is wordy can you give us the gyst of what this article is about? Its not about breeding brother to sister is it?
No, Martha, the article is mostly about why it is important NOT to inbreed or line breed...and why it is important to carefully screen the pedigree for related dogs...and how it is more important to bring in a "parent" breed of unrelated lines than to continue to use the "quality stud" that everyone wants to include in their lines...good read, once you get past the big words.
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I heard feeding your dogs with chocolate is dangerous nevertheless deadly. Is this true?
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I heard feeding your dogs with chocolate is dangerous nevertheless deadly. Is this true?
according to this article

Chocolate and Dog Poisoning

chocolate can be addicting to a dog..to some extent the same as cocaine has to us..it go s on to describe the symtoms of chocolate injestion and that some are more harmful than others..

i can t remember everything about chocolates affect on the health of dogs..but, i do understand its something Fido should nt get a taste of..
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I think this is very nice forum,Here we will get all information about anything.
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