"Bio Sensor" or "Superdog Program"

[Lucky Me]

Have any of you breeders ever tried this method developed by the Military?
It involves daily handling of the puppies from about 3 days to about 16days....
It is designed for early neurological stimulation... what exactly are its benefits?
Does it really work?

[m&t]

Sounds similar to what the Monks of New Skeet do/did with their breeding program (based on some of their books that I read back when researching getting a dog).

[Lucky Me]

Someone from the forum PM'd me with a link to a LD breeder who uses this method..(thanks again!!)
I am going to try it with my next litter.

[Jac]

Hi Judi,
If you want more info, I have an excellent article about it...probably one you have already read though.
I am planning to use it in a limited fashion on our next litter...I want to study the difference...
But this information, coupled with other info that I have been gathering has given me the basis of change for our litters.
I know that a trainer that I really respect, from San Diego, strongly believes in this program.
What I found interesting was that they say, according to their many years of study and observation, genetics accounts for only something like 35 or 39 percent of a pup's temperament...the rest is learned by the pups' life experiences.
Interesting theory...

[Diane at DVL]

There was a discussion about this on another doodle site and the breeders were in love with it. They all said that puppies are more relaxed and attentive and the families rave about how calm their dogs are in different situations. Hey Jac, I hope you post your observations after trying this next time and I would also like to see a copy of that article you're talking about. I'll pm you with my email. Thanks!

[KingstonTodd]

Can someone PM me a link to the article on it.

[Jac]

Hi Todd, I don't have a link, but I can email a copy as an attachment...I'll send it to you.

[Lucky Me]

For anyone interested I found this link (Eukanuba breedres resource Library)....the article is about halfway down the page- "METHODS OF STIMULATION"
http://www.breedsmartpartners.com/bronl ... ticleID=51
If this is different from your info Jac, could you email it to me? Thanks.
I am really excited to try this out..

[Cedar Hill]

I used the bio sensor stimulation on my last litters. I had two litters at the same time, and did the bio sensor on one litter and not the other. There was a different between the litters - the bio sensor litter was more active earlier, walked sooner, ate sooner, etc. However, this could be attributed to the difference between parents, gestation time, etc, so with my upcoming litters I'm going to do it different. I plan to use bio sensor on about 1/2 the pups in each litter, and then see if there is any difference. I feel the idea of bio sensor stimulation for puppies is very much like the "imprinting' used on horses at birth, and I believe imprinting foals does have an affect on them throughout their life.

http://www.cedarhilllabradoodles.com
info@cedarhilllabradoodles.com

[Jac]

Hi Theresa!
Welcome to our forum!
This is very interesting...we want to use bio Sensor on this litter, half and half, too...but I hate to choose which of the puppies will benefit from the program!!
My husband read, in a book on dog behavior, that dogs that are stimulated (with physical stimuli) actually have larger brains. They said that the studies are proving that the size of their brains actually increase with this type of program. Amazing!

[Cedar Hill]

Hi Jac

Since the pups are only days old when you start the program, just randomly select 1/2 the boys and 1/2 the girls based on their weight.. splitting the litter as evenly as possible, and your results should be accurate. Another way I've thought of is to do the bio sensor on all but the two most average sized pups (one boy & one girl). Don't worry about the pups that don't get the benefit of the bio sensor program during your tests! I've had plenty of litters before I started bio sensor and those pups have been wonderful.

[Jac]

Thanks, Theresa...I'll do it!
It is funny to worry about slighting a pup or two, isn't it? LOL
You are right, of course, we have had many pups too and none with bio sensor...and they have been super!
Okie dokie...this will be our test litter! (In more ways than one....this is our first exclusively service dog litter....)

[M&Tdoodles]

Originally Posted by Cedar Hill

I used the bio sensor stimulation on my last litters. I had two litters at the same time, and did the bio sensor on one litter and not the other. There was a different between the litters - the bio sensor litter was more active earlier, walked sooner, ate sooner, etc. However, this could be attributed to the difference between parents, gestation time, etc, so with my upcoming litters I'm going to do it different. I plan to use bio sensor on about 1/2 the pups in each litter, and then see if there is any difference. I feel the idea of bio sensor stimulation for puppies is very much like the "imprinting' used on horses at birth, and I believe imprinting foals does have an affect on them throughout their life.

http://www.cedarhilllabradoodles.com
info@cedarhilllabradoodles.com

My response to this remark is:

WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO ALL OF THE PUPPIES FROM THE GET GO?????????????

Why experiment when proven to work...depriving the pups of this valuable neuro growth and stimulation doesnt make sense to me...
Tom & I have been doing this with all litters since 06 with Fabulous results....with continuing tactile stim with loads of hugs and play as they mature , the last 4 weeks we spend hours with them all , providing them with as much stim with my son and his friends ages 4,7,9,11...the dogs are so used to children by the time they leave here, and so many have remarked at how incredibally CALM the pups are in those first few weeks they have them into their homes...

I read that the more that the pups are exposed to different situations, smells, people, situations, they will have better defense and coping mechanisms and will not be shy or timid or tend to be nervous , peeing all over everyhting the second it feels insecure...

I do not mean to brag about what we do.

Just think it through and stimulate ,stimulate, stimulate, stimulate, you only have 8 weeks so please dont deprive any of your pups this so needed attention...

Thankfully we had stumbled upon this approach before we started having lil pups in the home...I really think it works...it has proven to enlarge the brains at a quicker rate and the end results are a smarter more intelligent animal....in my humble opinion , it is the least we can do as breeders for the $$$ we are asking for the pups...

Tom makes "puppy- sized " See-Saws for the pups by placing a ball about 6 inches off ground in size to the bottom of a plank board about 3ft by 3 ft.,then by making another one when they are older as a longer thinner board is used...when the pups stumble on it, they have to figure out how to balance on it.

Tom also developed a tunnel system for the pups to run through, a miny sized one like you'de see at the "Agility " classes....its great fun to watch them chase ea. other through the tunnels, and when one is exiting when one is entering the other end...well...talk about laugh out loud....we found a facsimile at a small store made for leaf collecting, we just cut out the bottom of it..it costs 3.99....

We constantly shop around for toys for them to play with..pulling out different ones each week, we rotate all the toys through....and provide them with plenty of bully sticks , although expensive, invaluable for when they are starting to teethe...when they get to be small enough to choke on we remove them and give to MOM....we think its about keeping them busy and keeping their little growing minds busy...

Just my 2 cents on the topic...maybee the little things we do will help other breeders so they can have the most intelligent Labradoodle dogs around....like we feel we do..



THIS WAS OUR FIRST PRIMITIVE AGILITY STAND TOM THOUGHT OF WITH THE FIRST LITTER BACK IN 06'....he has come along way since then, but it worked...and the large yoga ball in the background was also a crowd pleaser too.

[Jac]

Hi Martha, I love your ideas...in fact we have been building our own mini agility course too!
I don't think that we are talking about the same thing though...Theresa and I are not talking about withholding ANY of the things you mention...but ADDING the Bio Sensor stimulation to that program.
This is why the pups won't be neglected in any way...they MAY be enhanced by the bio sensor program...and we want to know if what they claim is true.
Basically, bio sensor has 5 daily stimulations to do on the puppies for 3-5 seconds per day...in addition to all of the handling, loving and cuddling we normally do.
So, by separating the litter for these 5 exercises only, then we can really judge whether or not the bio sensor program does what they claim.
I do love what you are doing with your pups. We have always had a play area set up for our pups in our puppy condo. I truly believe that you can never love, cuddle and play with the pups enough and I completely agree that you have to expose them to all sorts of life's experiences...this is only a part of the bio sensor program and that part goes on indefinately.
The bio sensor stimulation focus is on pups from day 3 to day 16. They claim that if a pup is specifically stimulated this way that they actually "grow" brain cells.
I hope this clears it up. I know that Theresa does the same as you and I do. Her pups are very well loved and cuddled and stimulated and even potty trained.

[M&Tdoodles]

Thanks Jac,
We know most all the breeders on this site are responsible and reliable breeders and are constantly steering people to this site who are looking for doodle puppies..You can tell by the posts the time and love they put into their litters. WE enjoy learning from all those who post on this forum, as one can never learn enough about the importance of the first 8 weeks into the puppies lives & how those weeks can lead to healthier & happier adult lives.

We have been using the Bio-sensor method on the pups and we think it truly enhances their mental stability. We would highly reccomend this to any breeder. We do research new ways to enhance their environment with ea. litter , Tom comes in from the garage with something new for the pups to play on, in, or around...making the pups use their poodle side of the brain think..lol

..a board pup leads to an unhappy puppy