Broke the bank today

[cocoandjane]

OK, sorry ...but I don't remember....did Cinnamon have to get off Canidae due to allergies?? I guess some can develop an allergie to an ingredient, even though for a long time it didn't seem to bother them....
hmmmm....I still may look into something to switch to, for a comparison and variety....so many months on one kind and then switch over time to another to feed for awhile.

May not be necessary if all is well with this one....

[cocoandjane]

"allergie," no! allergy!

[lieverdmom]

OK, so how come all of a sudden so many are having problems with Canidae?? I know not all will do well on it...but if they did do well, what changed?

I wondered the same thing. I wonder if they are engaging in the Very common practice of "least cost" in which the formula for a feed changes from time to time depending on what ingredient is cheaper. Most manufacturers practice this means of cost control. I switched recently from Canidae back to Dynamite, and the young girls seem to be gaining a little more weight. Of course they sometimes are getting Deva's leftovers mixed in with their own food, and she has some chicken added while she's nursing her brood. No Wonder they like it so much better!

[dgeggis]

http://www.ultimatecoupons.com/coupons/ ... oupons.htm

[MaxandMe]

For those that feed Canidae and doodles having gas:

I've talked with canidae 3 times now, long story short
they said none of their dog food formulas have been changed
and perhaps w/Max (maybe other dogs too) after a long time
they need a mixture/variety

so for us, we added 1/2cup of another food and it worked...no more gas for almost a month, though i guess some say it can be 6 weeks BEFORE you really know if it works or not.

Well, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that ONE of Canidae's formulas changed due to the price increase in rice...

Found it! It is their lamb and rice formula that changed. They added 'diversified carbs' so they use less rice. Not good news for anyone using the food for allergy reasons!:

New Lamb Meal & Brown Rice Made with Fresh Lamb Meat for Improved Taste! Whole Grain Brown Rice and Diversified Carbohydrates Provide More Wholesome Nutrition and Increased Energy Levels.

CANIDAE® Lamb Meal and Rice Formula is formulated to meet the nutritional standards established by the AAFCO Dog Nutrient Profiles for all life stages.

Facts About The New CANIDAE All Life Stages Lamb and Rice Formula

What we improved in our formulation.

Meat is always the first ingredient in all of our products. Lamb Meal is still the first ingredient in the new CANIDAE All Natural All Life Stages Lamb and Rice dry formula. Now we've added fresh lamb meat for improved taste and palatability. In addition to brown rice, we have diversified the complex carbohydrates in the formula to include cracked pearl barley, rice bran, peas and millet for added flavor, nutritional value and easier digestion. These improvements to our all natural Lamb & Rice dry formula have only been made after extensive formulation, nutrient and palatability testing.

Brown Rice: One of the most digestible carbohydrate ingredients. Carbohydrates provide energy for all of the body’s vital functions. Excellent carbohydrate source for pets with sensitive digestive systems. Provides niacin, an important B vitamin, to the diet.

Cracked Pearl Barley: A complex carbohydrate and a good source of dietary fiber as well as protein. Also provides B vitamins and natural antioxidants. Antioxidants protect the health of the cells and are important for maintaining excellent overall health. Promotes a healthy digestive tract and reduces the risk of cancers. Lowers blood cholesterol levels and aids in disease resistance.

Rice Bran: The outer layer of the brown rice and is rich in fat and fiber. Contains many natural antioxidants including vitamin E. The fiber provided by rice bran contains a blend of soluble and in soluble fibers, helping to promote ideal stool quality and good digestive health.

Peas: Provide carbohydrates, fiber and protein. Highly digestible and full of vitamin C, a powerful antioxidant. Also provide B vitamins to the diet.

Millet: A protein rich grain, providing important amino acids such as Threonine and Lysine to the diet. A gluten free grain. Also rich in B vitamins.

Why we improved our Lamb & Rice dry dog food formulation.

Advances in pet nutrition are continually evolving, presenting new options in formulating premium pet food products. Along with being leaders in these advances, we are also choosing to be proactive and socially responsible in the manufacturing of our products while maintaining the superior quality our customers have come to expect.

Worldwide shortages and the rising prices of many food commodities, especially rice, are affecting people and industries around the globe. By reducing the consumption of U.S. grown rice used to make our premium Lamb & Rice dry formula, while at the same time improving on the nutritional benefits, taste and palatability of the formula itself, will contribute to reducing pressures being put on worldwide rice supplies and U.S. exports – U.S. exports that are used in many foreign countries around the world to feed the hungry and less fortunate.

At CANIDAE, we believe we are doing our small part in helping to alleviate these current pressures and demands on worldwide food supplies, including the U.S. rice used in making our products. We have improved our Lamb & Rice formulation, adding fresh lamb meat and diversifying the complex carbohydrates, without compromising on the nutritional value or benefits.

These changes will also help offset the escalating costs of the human grade food ingredients used in our products so that we can continue to offer the finest choices available in premium, all natural pet nutrition.

We use only USDA #1 choice grade meats. All of our grains, fruits, vegetables and herbs are USA grown and raised. All products are made the CANIDAE Way with NO corn, wheat, soy, by-products, grain fractions, or fillers, and naturally preserved.

Will the kibble look different?

Yes, the kibble will be lighter in color with a smoother texture. Our nutritional findings show that a finer grind on the ingredients prior to entering the extruder yields better digestion and increased palatability. We have also found that cooking the product at lower temperatures helps to retain beneficial nutrients, and yield a lighter kibble. Diversifying the carbohydrates from straight brown rice and adding fresh lamb meat lightens the color of the kibble.

Will my dog experience loose stools from switching to the improved formula?

Most dogs switch over with no problems whatsoever. If you have a dog with a sensitive digestive system, our findings suggest that within three days stools are firm and normal. If you are concerned, please mix your existing diet with the new 50/50 for the first day, 75/25 the second, and 100% CANIDAE Lamb and Rice on the third.

Will my dogs like the new formula?

Oh boy will they! Our findings are that 100% of all dogs prefer the new formula over the old.

I thought the old formula was just fine, why did you improve it?

Nutritional pet information is constantly evolving. With improved data we are able to create improved products. CANIDAE continues striving to provide your beloved pets the most nutritious, all natural, palatable products on the marketplace today. Our new Lamb & Rice formula, improved for taste, palatability and nutritional benefits, is a result of this commitment.


CANIDAE® Lamb Meal and Rice Formula is formulated to meet the nutritional standards established by the AAFCO Dog Nutrient Profiles for all life stages.

Calculated Caloric Content
ME (kcal/kg) 4022
ME (kcal/g) 4.03
ME (kcal/lb) 1828
ME (kcal/cup) 457

All Natural Ingredients
Lamb meal, brown rice, cracked pearled barley, rice bran, peas, millet, canola oil, lamb, tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed meal, potassium chloride, choline chloride, sun cured alfalfa meal, inulin (from chicory root), lecithin, sage extract, cranberries, beta carotene, rosemary extract, sunflower oil, yucca schidigera extract, dried enterococcus faecium, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract, saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine monitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid, cobalt proteinate, organic selenium, papaya, pineapple.

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