My little girl is growing up

KingstonTodd · 03-02-2010, 04:32 PM

Aero is starting her Beginner Obedience class tonight. I really hope she listens well. It should be entertaining at least, and hopefully informative.

Jac · 03-02-2010, 04:37 PM

Oh! Good luck to you both! Can't wait for the report!

KingstonTodd · 03-02-2010, 09:40 PM

Pretty basic class #1, nothing we couldnt have done for free at home, but it is getting us organized to get this done and more importantly it was great socialization for her. It is an all positive reward style, interupt and redirect negative behaviours, absolutley no punishment, so no worries there. 9 more classes to go. We had a few puppies in the class, a black Lab and a Boxer were our favourites. 1 h class = 1 very tired out puppy.

The most interesting thing I learned in the class wasn't about trining Aero at all. The instructer shows/trians her own St. Bernards and she says she purposefully doesnt teach her dogs "sit" and doesnt allow anyone to praise/pet them if they do, because in the show ring you dont want that behaviour when stopped and being evaulated by the judge. Interesting.

kirama · 03-02-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KingstonTodd

Pretty basic class #1, nothing we couldnt have done for free at home, but it is getting us organized to get this done and more importantly it was great socialization for her. It is an all positive reward style, interupt and redirect negative behaviours, absolutley no punishment, so no worries there. 9 more classes to go. We had a few puppies in the class, a black Lab and a Boxer were our favourites. 1 h class = 1 very tired out puppy.

The most interesting thing I learned in the class wasn't about trining Aero at all. The instructer shows/trians her own St. Bernards and she says she purposefully doesnt teach her dogs "sit" and doesnt allow anyone to praise/pet them if they do, because in the show ring you dont want that behaviour when stopped and being evaulated by the judge. Interesting.

lol, that's very true about not wanting dogs to sit in the show ring, but I briefly showed one of my boxers and taught him to stand on command, so the minute he started to sit, I would give him a hand signal for stand and he would stand back up.

**MaxandMe** · 03-03-2010, 09:16 AM

you're quite right Todd but in the class i do they do have people going on to show dogs and we learned how to give the signal
to stand and/or say it as well and MAX doesn't sit unless he gets the hand signal and stands till he does. I LOVE OB classes we did!

we also learned sometimes your dog is doing things correctly and WE can be the reason for errror, confusion, or a halfway command being done.
So I learned alot about my mental attitude, posture and doing my homework too when training Max, beau and peanut.

it's funny when anyone says SIT MAX or SIT PEANUT and they won't

they ask why.........I tell them " you didn't use the hand signal"

( i love it drives my 22yr old daughter NUTS!--paybacks are fun)

OH we did same training like you stated TODD and it's great here it's called the Vollhard Positive Reinforcement method
and with Max we worked towards NO treats , only praise and quick pat or hug from me
BUT if i am attempting something new or dangerous (like lettign them out off leash alone due to my surgery) then i use treats
all for 2 rasberries too haaaaaaaaaa

**lindamarie** · 03-03-2010, 10:25 AM

I LOVE OB classes!
Not only are they good for the puppy but good for the human in many ways!
First, they provide a good giggle or ten.........as they flop around and show their personalties.

Some can be such lunks and some can be sooo stubborn! Then there's always the shy guys that cling to the owner and look so sad and like they're being beaten!

Next.........it IS about training US! When we had Vladae, Bogart's last trainer.......he insisted we forget everything we ever learned and do it "his way"!

WOW! Did I have a lot of learning to do!

Yep.....the sit, down and stand! Stand wasn't the simplest thing to learn, but it was the way we were taught to position our hands on Bogart that got him to learn the difference and he did it well!

Todd, do you train all your pups......or are you keeping Aero??

KingstonTodd · 03-03-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lindamarie

Todd, do you train all your pups......or are you keeping Aero??

Oh yes, Aero is staying with us. She is an F1 from another breeder we bought before xmas and she will be tested to become part of the program. We were going to have her placed in a guardian home but in the months or so since we have been looking my wife has fallen in love and now she can't leave. I'm OK with that too, just makes more work for me with 3.

Jac · 03-03-2010, 06:20 PM

Sounds like fun...another good reason for classes is that it gives you and Aero some "alone" time, making her feel special.

KingstonTodd · 03-03-2010, 06:36 PM

working on "look at me"

Jac · 03-03-2010, 07:40 PM

Oh, Todd! She is so cute! And, you are right...she IS growing up!

KingstonTodd · 03-03-2010, 07:58 PM

She really is getting BIG. 4.5 months old...

Jac · 03-04-2010, 03:20 AM

Wow! She has great conformation...and look at how dark brown she is! Beautiful!

**MaxandMe** · 03-07-2010, 10:24 AM

TODD i can see how your wife fell in love too...........AERO is gorgeous and i love her lines as well in the pic w/G.Retv
she also does appear tall already at 4.5mos old.

Aero........todd i was trying to remember how you came up with that name? it's a neat name.

KingstonTodd · 03-07-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxandMe

TODD i can see how your wife fell in love too...........AERO is gorgeous and i love her lines as well in the pic w/G.Retv
she also does appear tall already at 4.5mos old.

Aero........todd i was trying to remember how you came up with that name? it's a neat name.

Thanks AM, We are thrilled at her structure. Benefits of a feild lab over show lineage, built for movement! Aero is the name of a chocolate bar, not too original. We have a Hershe and Aero. Aero has a 70% coco dark chocolate that my wife loves, so the name suits.

**MaxandMe** · 03-08-2010, 01:29 AM

Todd , I REALLY like your wife

and when you visit later this year in warmer weather BRING The whole gang we have enough room. YES all 3 dogs, and family.

Besides you might want to read/thumb through my book of genetics by Little.

Later i wonder if you could get a picture of AERO as he gets a tad older with another pic of his form/lines
I love when they're tail is straight out and it's the 180 degree perfection and legs in correct stance .....when they point it's so cute

OH wait, MAX points when he knows an animal is in woods or a friend who hunts is up the tree

MAX grew up with the field irish setter teaching her pups how to point and once in a great while peanut (GD) points now

03-02-2010, 04:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
KingstonTodd Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,005	My little girl is growing up Aero is starting her Beginner Obedience class tonight. I really hope she listens well. It should be entertaining at least, and hopefully informative.

03-02-2010, 04:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	Re: My little girl is growing up Oh! Good luck to you both! Can't wait for the report!

03-02-2010, 09:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
KingstonTodd Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,005	Re: My little girl is growing up Pretty basic class #1, nothing we couldnt have done for free at home, but it is getting us organized to get this done and more importantly it was great socialization for her. It is an all positive reward style, interupt and redirect negative behaviours, absolutley no punishment, so no worries there. 9 more classes to go. We had a few puppies in the class, a black Lab and a Boxer were our favourites. 1 h class = 1 very tired out puppy. The most interesting thing I learned in the class wasn't about trining Aero at all. The instructer shows/trians her own St. Bernards and she says she purposefully doesnt teach her dogs "sit" and doesnt allow anyone to praise/pet them if they do, because in the show ring you dont want that behaviour when stopped and being evaulated by the judge. Interesting.

03-03-2010, 09:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
MaxandMe Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 15,103	Re: My little girl is growing up you're quite right Todd but in the class i do they do have people going on to show dogs and we learned how to give the signal to stand and/or say it as well and MAX doesn't sit unless he gets the hand signal and stands till he does. I LOVE OB classes we did! we also learned sometimes your dog is doing things correctly and WE can be the reason for errror, confusion, or a halfway command being done. So I learned alot about my mental attitude, posture and doing my homework too when training Max, beau and peanut. it's funny when anyone says SIT MAX or SIT PEANUT and they won't they ask why.........I tell them " you didn't use the hand signal" ( i love it drives my 22yr old daughter NUTS!--paybacks are fun) OH we did same training like you stated TODD and it's great here it's called the Vollhard Positive Reinforcement method and with Max we worked towards NO treats , only praise and quick pat or hug from me BUT if i am attempting something new or dangerous (like lettign them out off leash alone due to my surgery) then i use treats all for 2 rasberries too haaaaaaaaaa __________________ *Annmarie, Max,& Peanut* "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France uncondtional love: what a dog always does for us and humans strive to do but can we?

03-03-2010, 10:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
lindamarie Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Birmingham, Michigan Posts: 6,172	Re: My little girl is growing up I LOVE OB classes! Not only are they good for the puppy but good for the human in many ways! First, they provide a good giggle or ten.........as they flop around and show their personalties. Some can be such lunks and some can be sooo stubborn! Then there's always the shy guys that cling to the owner and look so sad and like they're being beaten! Next.........it IS about training US! When we had Vladae, Bogart's last trainer.......he insisted we forget everything we ever learned and do it "his way"! WOW! Did I have a lot of learning to do! Yep.....the sit, down and stand! Stand wasn't the simplest thing to learn, but it was the way we were taught to position our hands on Bogart that got him to learn the difference and he did it well! Todd, do you train all your pups......or are you keeping Aero?? __________________ Linda & Bogart Dogs=Unconditional love "We have it all! Just like Bogie & Bacall!"

03-03-2010, 06:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	Re: My little girl is growing up Sounds like fun...another good reason for classes is that it gives you and Aero some "alone" time, making her feel special.

03-03-2010, 06:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
KingstonTodd Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,005	Re: My little girl is growing up working on "look at me"

03-03-2010, 07:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	Re: My little girl is growing up Oh, Todd! She is so cute! And, you are right...she IS growing up!

03-03-2010, 07:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
KingstonTodd Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,005	Re: My little girl is growing up She really is getting BIG. 4.5 months old...

03-04-2010, 03:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	Re: My little girl is growing up Wow! She has great conformation...and look at how dark brown she is! Beautiful!

03-07-2010, 10:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
MaxandMe Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 15,103	Re: My little girl is growing up TODD i can see how your wife fell in love too...........AERO is gorgeous and i love her lines as well in the pic w/G.Retv she also does appear tall already at 4.5mos old. Aero........todd i was trying to remember how you came up with that name? it's a neat name. __________________ *Annmarie, Max,& Peanut* "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France uncondtional love: what a dog always does for us and humans strive to do but can we?

03-08-2010, 01:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
MaxandMe Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 15,103	Re: My little girl is growing up Todd , I REALLY like your wife and when you visit later this year in warmer weather BRING The whole gang we have enough room. YES all 3 dogs, and family. Besides you might want to read/thumb through my book of genetics by Little. Later i wonder if you could get a picture of AERO as he gets a tad older with another pic of his form/lines I love when they're tail is straight out and it's the 180 degree perfection and legs in correct stance .....when they point it's so cute OH wait, MAX points when he knows an animal is in woods or a friend who hunts is up the tree MAX grew up with the field irish setter teaching her pups how to point and once in a great while peanut (GD) points now __________________ *Annmarie, Max,& Peanut* "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France uncondtional love: what a dog always does for us and humans strive to do but can we?

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