New owner of a pup with a heart murmur - Page 2

Doodlesville · 01-15-2008, 10:44 AM

Yes AnneMarie, that is exactly what my vet said
and it is true, with the heart murmurs i have had thus far in litters ever single one of the pups has outgrown them
What happens is when born the heart vaulve doesnt close rite away
as they mature it does
up to grade 3 murmur that is normally the case

KahaiW · 03-16-2011, 07:42 PM

I just got a 9 week'er myself, cutest thing in the world!!!! The vet detected a mild murmur when he got to an excited state. Obviously I have to just wait it out however, I see in earlier posts people are "rating" the murmur and 3 seems to be a big boundary. My question is, who can give accurate rating, the vet or a specialist?

deepnite10 · 03-17-2011, 06:41 PM

When we took Toby in for his first physical we were told he had a slight
heart murmur..we were told at this time there was really no need for alarm, that most pups he s examined had out grown them..

he did say that if we wanted..we could have a specialist perform a cardiac ultrasound..we did inform the breeder and were told that if by the 3 rd visit the murmur was still present.. he would split the cost of the ultrasound..and if necessary provide a refund..or compensate us for medication for 3 yrs..

things have gone well..at his second visit at 6 mos. there was no detection of the heart murmur..

**lindamarie** · 03-18-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dixiedi

I really don't think it is going to be an issue but I would definately contact the breeder and let them know that your puppy has a heart murmur and that your vet is going to recheck her in a few weeks. I don't know what kind of contract you have but any reputable breeder would be very willing to pay for any test that is needed. Just be sure to notify your breeder of what is going on and give them the name of your vet and phone number so they can call and talk with him.

I'm sure all is going to be fine, keep us posted

DITTO!!
Please do all of the above!

KahaiW · 03-18-2011, 09:09 PM

I have contacted the breeder but as you all have said it's a waiting game now. I have noticed that his breathing rate is pretty fast all the time. Seems to be in the 100 bpm range.. yikes am I freaking myself out here or what?

deepnite10 · 03-18-2011, 09:41 PM

most of the time Toby is pretty calm and breathing is pretty even with his mouth shut..

however, when it s warm his breathing does go up..so i would nt worry than much just yet..when they re still young they get excited over the smallest things..

**lindamarie** · 03-19-2011, 02:10 PM

You know, this is a difficult situation and I don't blame you for freakin' out.
I don't even know how to say this but.......many people rescue pups or older dogs who have various problems. I mean, people rescue dogs with say one leg missing, dogs that need meds constantly say for epilepsy etc.

What is happening here is you have a pup, who from your avatar, I can see is adorable! Now, you're playing a waiting game. Things worked out for deepnite's Toby!! This is good news and maybe is an example of what will happen with you pup.
What did the breeder say? We had a 2 year health warranty for Bogart. Now, had something happened to him within those 2 years, could I give him back? ABSOLUTELY NOT! We love him and he has become one of the family, and to me cannot ever be replaced.
Now.......here comes the hard part. You just got this pup. Yes, you love it to death already.......but it's early in the game and the attachment, although there, is not yet what it will become.
What if things don't improve and you wind up with horrendous vet bills and health problems for the next 14 years?
I think you know where I;m going with this......I hope........because I can't say it, think it or put it in writing.
You have to think of what is best for you and your family.....or........like so many others who rescue dogs with problems....just go for it!
I am so sorry for your problem.

**lindamarie** · 03-19-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doodlesville

Yes AnneMarie, that is exactly what my vet said
and it is true, with the heart murmurs i have had thus far in litters ever single one of the pups has outgrown them
What happens is when born the heart vaulve doesnt close rite away
as they mature it does
up to grade 3 murmur that is normally the case

This is what I pray for with your doodle pup! It may NOT be a big thing at all.

KahaiW · 04-05-2011, 02:38 AM

Ok, just got home from the vet and he said the heart murmur is almost totally none existant now. So he has out grown it at 3 months old yahoooooooo!

**lindamarie** · 04-06-2011, 09:35 AM

OMYGOSH! WHEW!!! Thank goodness that all is well!!

03-16-2011, 07:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
KahaiW Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Haleiwa, Hawaii Posts: 4	I just got a 9 week'er myself, cutest thing in the world!!!! The vet detected a mild murmur when he got to an excited state. Obviously I have to just wait it out however, I see in earlier posts people are "rating" the murmur and 3 seems to be a big boundary. My question is, who can give accurate rating, the vet or a specialist? Last edited by KahaiW; 03-16-2011 at 08:14 PM.

03-19-2011, 02:10 PM	#22 (permalink)
lindamarie Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Birmingham, Michigan Posts: 6,171	You know, this is a difficult situation and I don't blame you for freakin' out. I don't even know how to say this but.......many people rescue pups or older dogs who have various problems. I mean, people rescue dogs with say one leg missing, dogs that need meds constantly say for epilepsy etc. What is happening here is you have a pup, who from your avatar, I can see is adorable! Now, you're playing a waiting game. Things worked out for deepnite's Toby!! This is good news and maybe is an example of what will happen with you pup. What did the breeder say? We had a 2 year health warranty for Bogart. Now, had something happened to him within those 2 years, could I give him back? ABSOLUTELY NOT! We love him and he has become one of the family, and to me cannot ever be replaced. Now.......here comes the hard part. You just got this pup. Yes, you love it to death already.......but it's early in the game and the attachment, although there, is not yet what it will become. What if things don't improve and you wind up with horrendous vet bills and health problems for the next 14 years? I think you know where I;m going with this......I hope........because I can't say it, think it or put it in writing. You have to think of what is best for you and your family.....or........like so many others who rescue dogs with problems....just go for it! I am so sorry for your problem. __________________ Linda & Bogart Dogs=Unconditional love "We have it all! Just like Bogie & Bacall!"

04-06-2011, 09:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
lindamarie Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Birmingham, Michigan Posts: 6,171	OMYGOSH! WHEW!!! Thank goodness that all is well!! __________________ Linda & Bogart Dogs=Unconditional love "We have it all! Just like Bogie & Bacall!"

01-15-2008, 10:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
Doodlesville Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina/Virginia Posts: 2,740	Yes AnneMarie, that is exactly what my vet said and it is true, with the heart murmurs i have had thus far in litters ever single one of the pups has outgrown them What happens is when born the heart vaulve doesnt close rite away as they mature it does up to grade 3 murmur that is normally the case

03-17-2011, 06:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
deepnite10 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 1,358	When we took Toby in for his first physical we were told he had a slight heart murmur..we were told at this time there was really no need for alarm, that most pups he s examined had out grown them.. he did say that if we wanted..we could have a specialist perform a cardiac ultrasound..we did inform the breeder and were told that if by the 3 rd visit the murmur was still present.. he would split the cost of the ultrasound..and if necessary provide a refund..or compensate us for medication for 3 yrs.. things have gone well..at his second visit at 6 mos. there was no detection of the heart murmur..

03-18-2011, 09:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
KahaiW Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Haleiwa, Hawaii Posts: 4	I have contacted the breeder but as you all have said it's a waiting game now. I have noticed that his breathing rate is pretty fast all the time. Seems to be in the 100 bpm range.. yikes am I freaking myself out here or what?

03-18-2011, 09:41 PM	#21 (permalink)
deepnite10 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 1,358	most of the time Toby is pretty calm and breathing is pretty even with his mouth shut.. however, when it s warm his breathing does go up..so i would nt worry than much just yet..when they re still young they get excited over the smallest things..

04-05-2011, 02:38 AM	#24 (permalink)
KahaiW Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Haleiwa, Hawaii Posts: 4	Ok, just got home from the vet and he said the heart murmur is almost totally none existant now. So he has out grown it at 3 months old yahoooooooo!

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