difference in noses when pups?

cissy k · 06-07-2008, 09:20 AM

I have been scouring websites and this forum looking at pictures of pups...they are so darn cute!

I have noticed that some pups have shorter snouts than others. Can I assume that they ones with shorter noses will look more like labs in the face while the longer nosed ones like poodles? Or do their noses change over time and there is no good indicator?

Second question; if the nose IS a good indicator, does that men the labby looking ones are less likely to have the "poodle tummy" that I keep reading about because they are more labby in body type? Or do owners out there have very labby looking dogs who still have the sensitive tummies?

Thanks for any help with this one!

cocoandjane · 06-07-2008, 11:59 AM

I have no idea about the correlation between noses and tummies....
I do know that some breeders have expressed a desire to produce puppies with a little more boxey shaped head and snout, as opposed to the poodley type. Australians seem to have the boxier type for the most part, I think....but then I may totally wrong about this.

If the poodle trait is very evident and strong in appearance, it would make sense to me that maybe the tummy could be like a poodle's too?

Maureen · 06-07-2008, 01:45 PM

With hybrid puppies, the traits in tummies will vary JUST LIKE the muzzle/nose traits do. No, I cannot imagine that there will be a connection between noses and chests. But you are wise to ask questions beyond looks and coat!

**MaxandMe** · 06-08-2008, 01:54 AM

cissy...........max is a f1 LD, long snout like his poodle dad, scruffy with lab chest but light on his feet and prances like a poodle, has a senstive tummy that seems to be getting much better than last year.

a Nose and stomach.....genetically i cannot see any correlation with digestion , color and structure since it is a genetic hybrid dog the LD

lieverdmom · 06-09-2008, 05:29 AM

The size of the nose would vary depending on the age of the puppy in the photo, and I'd see no reason to find a relationship between the stomach and the nose.

As said before, the Labradoodle is a hybrid, and inherits many genes from each side of the family, so the mix would be the luck of the draw. Though I haven't done genetic mapping, I can't imagine the nose and stomach traits being on the same gene. As Maureen said, you are wise to ask questions!

(Great avatar, Maureen!)

06-07-2008, 09:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
cissy k Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: NC Posts: 1,433	difference in noses when pups? I have been scouring websites and this forum looking at pictures of pups...they are so darn cute! I have noticed that some pups have shorter snouts than others. Can I assume that they ones with shorter noses will look more like labs in the face while the longer nosed ones like poodles? Or do their noses change over time and there is no good indicator? Second question; if the nose IS a good indicator, does that men the labby looking ones are less likely to have the "poodle tummy" that I keep reading about because they are more labby in body type? Or do owners out there have very labby looking dogs who still have the sensitive tummies? Thanks for any help with this one! __________________ Cissy and Semi

06-07-2008, 11:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
cocoandjane Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: near Dallas, Texas Posts: 1,856	I have no idea about the correlation between noses and tummies.... I do know that some breeders have expressed a desire to produce puppies with a little more boxey shaped head and snout, as opposed to the poodley type. Australians seem to have the boxier type for the most part, I think....but then I may totally wrong about this. If the poodle trait is very evident and strong in appearance, it would make sense to me that maybe the tummy could be like a poodle's too? __________________ Jane Coco, Abby, Nellie, my doodles and Delilah, too !!

06-07-2008, 01:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Maureen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,810	With hybrid puppies, the traits in tummies will vary JUST LIKE the muzzle/nose traits do. No, I cannot imagine that there will be a connection between noses and chests. But you are wise to ask questions beyond looks and coat! __________________ ~Maureen LabradoodleRanch@aol.com www.LabradoodleRanch.com

06-08-2008, 01:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
MaxandMe Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 15,103	cissy...........max is a f1 LD, long snout like his poodle dad, scruffy with lab chest but light on his feet and prances like a poodle, has a senstive tummy that seems to be getting much better than last year. a Nose and stomach.....genetically i cannot see any correlation with digestion , color and structure since it is a genetic hybrid dog the LD __________________ *Annmarie, Max,& Peanut* "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France uncondtional love: what a dog always does for us and humans strive to do but can we?

06-09-2008, 05:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
lieverdmom Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 483	The size of the nose would vary depending on the age of the puppy in the photo, and I'd see no reason to find a relationship between the stomach and the nose. As said before, the Labradoodle is a hybrid, and inherits many genes from each side of the family, so the mix would be the luck of the draw. Though I haven't done genetic mapping, I can't imagine the nose and stomach traits being on the same gene. As Maureen said, you are wise to ask questions! (Great avatar, Maureen!) __________________ Deb, Deva, Smiley, Lavender and Cherie A Sky View Labradoodle Valley Center, CA www.ASkyViewLabradoodle.com www.DynamiteOnline.com/DeborahBurroughs

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