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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Hi,
I have been shopping for a mini doodle. What is the average weight for a 7 week old standard doodle? Who knows what the average weight of a mini-doodle would be at 7 weeks old? What about a medium doodle? Thanks Maddie |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: California
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if I remember right my pups were 4-6 pounds at 6 weeks.
does that fit with what your finding? if you search growth chart on this site I think people have posted their doodles growth. here is sammy doodles as posted by his mom M~ |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Hi Maddie, my Labradoodles are medium standards...and the pups are (generally) around 9-11 lbs at 7 weeks.
I have no idea what minis will weigh. You have probably seen this, but I am posting it anyway, just in case...it is the breed standard (ILA) identifying the various sizes: Size: Standard: 21 to 24 (not over 25) inches (or about 53-63 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. The ideal size for the female is 21-23 inches and the male is 22-24 inches. Weight range tends toward 23-30 kg (about 50-65 lbs). Oversize is a major fault. Medium: 17 to 20 (not over 21) inches (or about 43-52 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. The ideal size for the female is 17-19 inches and the male is 18-20 inches. Weight range tends toward 13-20 kg or (about 30-45 lbs). Miniature: 14 to 16 (not over 17) inches (or about 35-42 cm) from the wither to ground measurement. There is no correlation between height and sex in the Miniature size. Weight range tends toward 7-12 kg or (about 15-25 lbs). Undersize is a Major fault. |
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hahaha...that's what I had to do! I had to find my vet records!
I was a bit surprised...but the records were copies from the vet so I think that they are accurate. My adult dogs are usually between 40-60 lbs and 19-21 inches. The boys tend to be the largest. |
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hahahaha, welcome to the "Head Spin Club" of Labradoodle fans!
Not much of this makes sense right now...so much is changing...and believe me, I am no expert on any of the breed standard...but by asking the questions you are helping all of us to get a better handle on the concept. |
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I am not an expert either, jac knows WAY WAY more than me, but in the poodle world a dogs size is measured soley by shoulder height. Therefore I consider my dogs standard labradoodles regardless of weight.
My Mackenzie is considered a standard poodle because of her shoulder height. Jac shared the current labradoodle standards and my dogs fall into the "standard category" as you can see currently a mammoth labradoodle isnt considered at all. I cant remember the term that was coined in the poodle community when they started getting to big and didnt fit the standards, I think the breeders started calling them royal - i dont know it never made sense to me Now you have me thinking of my mini red poodle charles I loved him so much. He was a mini all around right height, right build and that little bugger was over weight he weighed 22 pounds and he was suppose to be 14 LOL |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I'm with you guys, on trying to predict weights. I think it is VERY misleading, and therefore a TOTAL waste of time, and I have proof laying at my feet!
My fit, trim, 20" f1 Doodle weighs 60lbs! She doesn't even look that bulky or Lab-like in her build. My slim, great-confirmation Poodle is 24" and weighs 45lbs! In the litter we're looking forward to, the male is 25" and only 50lbs, which is obviously a low weight for an intact male that height. So who can tell what these puppies will weigh? Yet to predict heights that range between the 2 parents is fairly simple, with allowance that one of the bunch might be taller and one might be shorter. |
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Sure, Maddie!
I am sure that there is a more technical way to predict, if, for example you knew the heights of all 4 grandparents, but basically I would tell you the height of Yankee, and the ht. of the sire and tell you is is reasonable to expect your puppy to be within those ranges, with a 1" margin. But that 5" range is actually as much as I can imagine, so that is really the range I would expect. And, I would tell you that males are almost always at the taller range and females at the shorter. Having said all of that, in a breeding of 2 dogs who were both 24", we did get a puppy who was STILL noticably smaller than all his siblings at 16wks, so I thought it was reasonable to consider him a throwback to the miniature side of their gene pool. It was my 2nd time breeding those 2 parents so I had NO expectation of a miniature Doodle, but he was only projected to be 20" at the most, according to his 4mos. height. But that one puppy is a real exception to the rule, not something I would mention every time I predict heights. does this help? |
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