mini labradoodle puppy weight - Page 2

Maddie · 10-05-2006, 05:30 PM

So you just take the average between the two?
(or 4 if you know the grandparents)

Maureen · 10-05-2006, 05:38 PM

no, I don't average the heights for predictions. I give the heights of the parents, allowing that heights in between the parents' heights can happen.

If someone insists that a heavier dog is a concern I point out that poodles are NOT pushy, or bulky in the way that Labs are, or can be. There is no way that Yankee tries to push around Sheba, for example, just because she is heavier.

Jac · 10-05-2006, 08:33 PM

You know, my girls are siblings and are the same height...but Lexie is so boxy, like a Lab, and Bayley is very lean, like a Poodle...and Lexie weighs nearly 70 lbs! (She is a little on the heavy side, but not fat...truly it is all of her huge chest and square build.) Bayley is between 40-45 lbs.

So, a breeder can look at the pups and watch them grow for those 8-12 weeks and usually can predict what will happen...

In our last litter, the pups were all pretty uniform, but one little female (we called her Little Pink...she is now Harold and Lisa's Gracey) was always petite...not a runt...but smaller boned. Her face was small, and her body was like her mother's (Bayley)...the other females were a nice cross between both parents and they were larger but none have gotten too big...none are as big as Chase.

Still, I always knew that Little Pink (aka Gracey) would be small.

Maureen · 10-05-2006, 08:38 PM

great example!
So, Jacque, do you use your girls as examples to show that predicting heights is more accurate than weights? I think we can look at the frame of our puppies and learn what a slighter, vs. athletic build is, but who would've guessed your girls would be so diverse in physiques?

Do you try to predict the weight range of your puppies as adults?

I just think the hybrid factor is hard to get right. So I'd rather not go there than be wrong! (or I'm just not good at it)

Jac · 10-05-2006, 09:02 PM

Oh, no, I don't try to predict...although I do think that we have consistently gotten pups shorter than (or in the case of some males, the same as) Chase and taller than the mothers.

It is just the little ones, always female, that I know will be small. We had a couple of smaller girls in Lexie's litter too. And I don't judge so much by their weight but by their bone structure and shape.

And, yes, I can more easily predict the height...although I can usually see if the face is going to be boxy and that leads me to consider that the dog will get more square and heavy. (I actually love that!)

Maddie · 10-05-2006, 10:32 PM

So you can have short fat dogs, that weigh alot, be the parents of minis.

On the other hand, I once saw a breeder's website with a photo of a 100lb. doodle. It was ONE BIG DOODLE! It was large in height and weight. Neither parent was anywhere near that big.

Go figure?

Maddie

Maureen · 10-05-2006, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddie

So you can have short fat dogs, that weigh alot, be the parents of minis.

is this a joke?

Maddie · 10-05-2006, 11:57 PM

Sorry Maureen,

It was sort of a half joke, meaning that its so hard to predict adult weight if you only know the weight of the parents, and not the height.

I apologize if you felt it was in bad taste.

But the second part (about the 100 lb. doodle) was true.

Maddie

Maureen · 10-06-2006, 12:20 AM

oh, no offense taken! I just didn't understand.

I get the comment about the 100 pounder. I had a litter of puppies from my Sheba and a short, squatty (English) Lab...and one of those boys is 27" tall! Who can know how those genes are going to come together, exactly? There's always one that just has to be different.

The truth is that there is a variance in the physiques of Labs, among each other, just like there's a difference in the heights of poodles.

Doodlesville · 10-06-2006, 05:49 PM

and how the genes fall,,i have a mini litter rite now that at 9weeks old are all under 10lbs avg is 7lbs

needless to say imma happy camper,,LOL

Maddie · 10-06-2006, 11:21 PM

They are cuties Nancy

Congrats!

Maddie

10-08-2006, 04:52 PM

Hi Maddie,
Linda has 2 beautiful cream puppies at a discount. I am sure she could give you more info if you are interested.
http://www.4pawspuppies.com/puppies.htm
How is the hunt going?

Doodlesville · 10-08-2006, 04:54 PM

They are soo precious ,,im tickled with how little they are and non are shedding thus far

Maddie · 10-09-2006, 03:10 PM

Hi Linda,

Your pups are adorable, but I am looking for a female mini.

Maddie

10-05-2006, 05:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Maddie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 298	So you just take the average between the two? (or 4 if you know the grandparents) __________________ Maddie & Lexi http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/maddiesuew/

10-05-2006, 05:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
Maureen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,810	no, I don't average the heights for predictions. I give the heights of the parents, allowing that heights in between the parents' heights can happen. If someone insists that a heavier dog is a concern I point out that poodles are NOT pushy, or bulky in the way that Labs are, or can be. There is no way that Yankee tries to push around Sheba, for example, just because she is heavier. __________________ ~Maureen LabradoodleRanch@aol.com www.LabradoodleRanch.com

10-05-2006, 08:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
Maureen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,810	great example! So, Jacque, do you use your girls as examples to show that predicting heights is more accurate than weights? I think we can look at the frame of our puppies and learn what a slighter, vs. athletic build is, but who would've guessed your girls would be so diverse in physiques? Do you try to predict the weight range of your puppies as adults? I just think the hybrid factor is hard to get right. So I'd rather not go there than be wrong! (or I'm just not good at it) __________________ ~Maureen LabradoodleRanch@aol.com www.LabradoodleRanch.com

10-05-2006, 10:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
Maddie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 298	So you can have short fat dogs, that weigh alot, be the parents of minis. On the other hand, I once saw a breeder's website with a photo of a 100lb. doodle. It was ONE BIG DOODLE! It was large in height and weight. Neither parent was anywhere near that big. Go figure? Maddie __________________ Maddie & Lexi http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/maddiesuew/

10-05-2006, 11:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
Maddie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 298	Sorry Maureen, It was sort of a half joke, meaning that its so hard to predict adult weight if you only know the weight of the parents, and not the height. I apologize if you felt it was in bad taste. But the second part (about the 100 lb. doodle) was true. Maddie __________________ Maddie & Lexi http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/maddiesuew/

10-05-2006, 08:33 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	You know, my girls are siblings and are the same height...but Lexie is so boxy, like a Lab, and Bayley is very lean, like a Poodle...and Lexie weighs nearly 70 lbs! (She is a little on the heavy side, but not fat...truly it is all of her huge chest and square build.) Bayley is between 40-45 lbs. So, a breeder can look at the pups and watch them grow for those 8-12 weeks and usually can predict what will happen... In our last litter, the pups were all pretty uniform, but one little female (we called her Little Pink...she is now Harold and Lisa's Gracey) was always petite...not a runt...but smaller boned. Her face was small, and her body was like her mother's (Bayley)...the other females were a nice cross between both parents and they were larger but none have gotten too big...none are as big as Chase. Still, I always knew that Little Pink (aka Gracey) would be small.

10-05-2006, 09:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jac Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: northern California Posts: 9,243	Oh, no, I don't try to predict...although I do think that we have consistently gotten pups shorter than (or in the case of some males, the same as) Chase and taller than the mothers. It is just the little ones, always female, that I know will be small. We had a couple of smaller girls in Lexie's litter too. And I don't judge so much by their weight but by their bone structure and shape. And, yes, I can more easily predict the height...although I can usually see if the face is going to be boxy and that leads me to consider that the dog will get more square and heavy. (I actually love that!)

10-06-2006, 12:20 AM	#24 (permalink)
Maureen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,810	oh, no offense taken! I just didn't understand. I get the comment about the 100 pounder. I had a litter of puppies from my Sheba and a short, squatty (English) Lab...and one of those boys is 27" tall! Who can know how those genes are going to come together, exactly? There's always one that just has to be different. The truth is that there is a variance in the physiques of Labs, among each other, just like there's a difference in the heights of poodles. __________________ ~Maureen LabradoodleRanch@aol.com www.LabradoodleRanch.com

10-06-2006, 05:49 PM	#25 (permalink)
Doodlesville Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina/Virginia Posts: 2,740	Depend on the Parents and how the genes fall,,i have a mini litter rite now that at 9weeks old are all under 10lbs avg is 7lbs needless to say imma happy camper,,LOL

10-06-2006, 11:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
Maddie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 298	They are cuties Nancy Congrats! Maddie __________________ Maddie & Lexi http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/maddiesuew/

10-08-2006, 04:52 PM	#27 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Maddie, Linda has 2 beautiful cream puppies at a discount. I am sure she could give you more info if you are interested. http://www.4pawspuppies.com/puppies.htm How is the hunt going?

10-08-2006, 04:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
Doodlesville Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Carolina/Virginia Posts: 2,740	Thanks Maddie They are soo precious ,,im tickled with how little they are and non are shedding thus far

10-09-2006, 03:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
Maddie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 298	Hi Linda, Your pups are adorable, but I am looking for a female mini. Maddie __________________ Maddie & Lexi http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/maddiesuew/

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