So Confused! Looking for a breeder in Nj and now confused about the generations?

pizzapie · 06-20-2011, 02:34 PM

Hi all,
First off, this is a great resource!!! My family is looking for a Labradoodle, I live in NJ near Philliadelphia, so I originally got to look for a good breeder?????? If anyone could PM, that would be awesome! But now I am a little more confused, I was told to get an F2 or F3 because of my daughter's allergies, but as I read some posts, I see there are other factors, like Australian and such. I would like one that is allergy friendly and the bigger the better. I was told the curlier the coat, the better for allergies??? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!!!

Nikkiey · 06-20-2011, 04:20 PM

Welcome! This place is a great resource for all things labradoodle (and even dogs in general)!!!

I don't have much advice regarding your question mainly because I don't have any experience with F2 or F3 or even Australian doodles, but I can tell you this: if shedding is a concern then don't get an F1 (which it seems your aren't considering anyways so that's good). I have a wonderful F1 who is 9 months old right now and about 60 lbs and I love him to bits, but he does shed - a lot and he's not too allergy friendly, but I wouldn't trade him for the world.

But there are tons of knowledgeable people who visit this site regularly so just hold tight and I am sure someone will provide you with the answers you are looking for!

pizzapie · 06-20-2011, 05:00 PM

Thanks Nikkiey!!! I didn't realize there were so many options with a Labradoodle!

Riverkatie · 06-20-2011, 07:25 PM

We had an allergy friendly F1...they do exist! This time we have an F1b (and f1 bred back to a poodle) and so far all is well. My daughter can handle him with no problems.

As there is both lab and poodle, (and it is the poodle who has the allergy friendly coat) in a labradoodle you can get any kind of coat from a litter of puppies, unless they are very high generation, but there has not really been enough time for that with most breeders.

So, what to do? We found a friendly small breeder, and explained what we needed. The breeders were wonderful and after the puppies were born I went over and she sorted them into allergy coats and maybe not allergy coats and certainly not allergy coats (there was only one of these)!
Then with her help we selected the perfect puppy for us.

So far....one week on...all is well.

So I sugest you find a breeder you can trust and work with and enlist their help.

pizzapie · 06-20-2011, 09:03 PM

Thanks Riverkatie, where do you live? I'm in NJ, do you happen to know of any good breeders by me?

Riverkatie · 06-20-2011, 11:51 PM

The is actually a pup still available from Ruffs litter.....BUT I live in christchurch NZ!

Ruff comes from.....[edit by mods: PM for breeder names].

But it is a long way to NJ (New Jersey?)....

pizzapie · 06-21-2011, 12:25 PM

hahaha, yeah Riverkatie, that is a long way! Cute Doggies though!!!

Riverkatie · 06-22-2011, 02:06 PM

Sorry mods, about saying where Ruff came from. I didn't think it would matter as we are half a world away!

KingstonTodd · 06-22-2011, 11:23 PM

Its just a rule not to mention a breeder by name, link to their website, and say they have pups avaiable. I don't think you were advertising for them on purpose but it's a general rule to keep advertising to a minimum.

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Originally Posted by Riverkatie

Sorry mods, about saying where Ruff came from. I didn't think it would matter as we are half a world away!

Jasper'sMomma · 06-23-2011, 12:37 AM

From my research and our recent purchase, we are partial to the Australian Labradoodle because of their consistent temperament and non shedding and low producing saliva, which is also an allergen. I have allergies and like to sleep with fur free sheets!

from our breeder's website, she describes them well:

"What is an Australian Labradoodle? - Australian Labradoodles are an exceptional breed of dog that have resulted by combining two of the most friendly, child-loving, intelligent breeds available. The Standard Poodle and the Labrador are both known to be wonderful companions and great athletes. By combining these two breeds, the Australian Labradoodle resulted in a non-shedding dog breed, therefor a hypo-allergenic dog breed that also possesses exceptional intelligence and a fantastic ability to show love and loyalty to their owners.
In learning about multi-generational Australian Labradoodles, one must understand that they do indeed come in different variations due to the level at which the dogs have been bred, meaning some breeders take a Poodle and breed it to a Lab, thereby creating an original Labradoodle line. These dogs are referred to as F1 Labradoodles or F1B Labradoodles. A F1 Labradoodle is a 50% Lab and 50% Poodle, while an F1B Labradoodle is generally more Poodle, 75% Poodle and 25% Lab, helping with the shedding and allergy issues.
Multi-generational Labradoodles are those who have been bred with several generations of Australian bred Labradoodles in their bloodlines. The multi-gen Labradoodles have a more consistent coat and overall appearance due to the several generations of Australian Labradoodles behind them.
Labradoodles were originally bred in Australia with the intent of providing assistance dogs for people with disabilities and allergies. In addition to accomplishing this goal, these two breeds also created a single breed that has a heart and soul like no other dog we've ever known. From the moment we've held each of our multi-generational Australian Labradoodles, we've known that they are special dogs and dogs that will forever bring joy to their owners."

Find out more about Australian Labradoodle breeding here:

Australian Labradoodle Association of America,
International Australian Labradoodle Association

hope that helps!!

The Australian Labradoodles are actually more expensive than the F1s or F1Bs...the starting price for a true Australian labradoodle is 2500...expensive...but mine came with his neutering, a microchip, and a blood panel to show health (and to have to refer back to if he does get sick), also he had is first round of shots...

The Australian doodles are supposed to be more calm and chill as pups, they still need lots of attention and training to keep them stimulated...the hair can be varied as far as texture but they do not shed...

...but a doodle is a doodle, they love the same!! Both are intelligent and easily trained! I only have experience with the Australian Labradoodles but my trainer and my breeder have been very helpful in explaining the differences!

good luck

happydoodles · 06-28-2011, 02:46 PM

when allergy is involved then go for a pure australian labradoodle. here the grading scheme.

every breeder cann tell what grade their puppies are. If they cannot, then you are risking that you have to re-home your doodle after a period of time because of allergy problems. For the sake of the dog please try to avoid that.

TammyTD123 · 07-05-2011, 12:55 AM

I'm looking for a breeder in NJ as well. Any luck?

deepnite10 · 07-06-2011, 02:04 AM

it took me nearly a month of searching to eventually learn enough about the various generation s befor deciding on a F1b..

though there was no guarantee they would nt shedd..i was fortuante enough to find Toby..he sheds very lightly..not enough to even notice..

being a F1b..75% poodle..i was confident he d lean more towards the poodle coat than the lab..

as for size..Toby is on the big side..though the standards i saw were under 70lbs..Toby is now tipping the scales at 90lbs..yet he s as gentle as can be..and by now you know how easily train d they can be..

06-20-2011, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
pizzapie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5	So Confused! Looking for a breeder in Nj and now confused about the generations? Hi all, First off, this is a great resource!!! My family is looking for a Labradoodle, I live in NJ near Philliadelphia, so I originally got to look for a good breeder?????? If anyone could PM, that would be awesome! But now I am a little more confused, I was told to get an F2 or F3 because of my daughter's allergies, but as I read some posts, I see there are other factors, like Australian and such. I would like one that is allergy friendly and the bigger the better. I was told the curlier the coat, the better for allergies??? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!!!

06-20-2011, 11:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Riverkatie Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 110	The is actually a pup still available from Ruffs litter.....BUT I live in christchurch NZ! Ruff comes from.....[edit by mods: PM for breeder names]. But it is a long way to NJ (New Jersey?).... Last edited by KingstonTodd; 06-21-2011 at 12:30 PM.

06-20-2011, 04:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nikkiey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Alberta, Canda Posts: 196	Welcome! This place is a great resource for all things labradoodle (and even dogs in general)!!! I don't have much advice regarding your question mainly because I don't have any experience with F2 or F3 or even Australian doodles, but I can tell you this: if shedding is a concern then don't get an F1 (which it seems your aren't considering anyways so that's good). I have a wonderful F1 who is 9 months old right now and about 60 lbs and I love him to bits, but he does shed - a lot and he's not too allergy friendly, but I wouldn't trade him for the world. But there are tons of knowledgeable people who visit this site regularly so just hold tight and I am sure someone will provide you with the answers you are looking for!

06-20-2011, 05:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
pizzapie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5	Thanks Nikkiey!!! I didn't realize there were so many options with a Labradoodle!

06-20-2011, 07:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Riverkatie Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 110	We had an allergy friendly F1...they do exist! This time we have an F1b (and f1 bred back to a poodle) and so far all is well. My daughter can handle him with no problems. As there is both lab and poodle, (and it is the poodle who has the allergy friendly coat) in a labradoodle you can get any kind of coat from a litter of puppies, unless they are very high generation, but there has not really been enough time for that with most breeders. So, what to do? We found a friendly small breeder, and explained what we needed. The breeders were wonderful and after the puppies were born I went over and she sorted them into allergy coats and maybe not allergy coats and certainly not allergy coats (there was only one of these)! Then with her help we selected the perfect puppy for us. So far....one week on...all is well. So I sugest you find a breeder you can trust and work with and enlist their help.

06-20-2011, 09:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
pizzapie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5	Thanks Riverkatie, where do you live? I'm in NJ, do you happen to know of any good breeders by me?

06-21-2011, 12:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
pizzapie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5	hahaha, yeah Riverkatie, that is a long way! Cute Doggies though!!!

06-22-2011, 02:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Riverkatie Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 110	Sorry mods, about saying where Ruff came from. I didn't think it would matter as we are half a world away!

06-23-2011, 12:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jasper'sMomma Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Frisco, TX (in the DFW metroplex) Posts: 138	From my research and our recent purchase, we are partial to the Australian Labradoodle because of their consistent temperament and non shedding and low producing saliva, which is also an allergen. I have allergies and like to sleep with fur free sheets! from our breeder's website, she describes them well: "What is an Australian Labradoodle? - Australian Labradoodles are an exceptional breed of dog that have resulted by combining two of the most friendly, child-loving, intelligent breeds available. The Standard Poodle and the Labrador are both known to be wonderful companions and great athletes. By combining these two breeds, the Australian Labradoodle resulted in a non-shedding dog breed, therefor a hypo-allergenic dog breed that also possesses exceptional intelligence and a fantastic ability to show love and loyalty to their owners. In learning about multi-generational Australian Labradoodles, one must understand that they do indeed come in different variations due to the level at which the dogs have been bred, meaning some breeders take a Poodle and breed it to a Lab, thereby creating an original Labradoodle line. These dogs are referred to as F1 Labradoodles or F1B Labradoodles. A F1 Labradoodle is a 50% Lab and 50% Poodle, while an F1B Labradoodle is generally more Poodle, 75% Poodle and 25% Lab, helping with the shedding and allergy issues. Multi-generational Labradoodles are those who have been bred with several generations of Australian bred Labradoodles in their bloodlines. The multi-gen Labradoodles have a more consistent coat and overall appearance due to the several generations of Australian Labradoodles behind them. Labradoodles were originally bred in Australia with the intent of providing assistance dogs for people with disabilities and allergies. In addition to accomplishing this goal, these two breeds also created a single breed that has a heart and soul like no other dog we've ever known. From the moment we've held each of our multi-generational Australian Labradoodles, we've known that they are special dogs and dogs that will forever bring joy to their owners." Find out more about Australian Labradoodle breeding here: Australian Labradoodle Association of America, International Australian Labradoodle Association hope that helps!! The Australian Labradoodles are actually more expensive than the F1s or F1Bs...the starting price for a true Australian labradoodle is 2500...expensive...but mine came with his neutering, a microchip, and a blood panel to show health (and to have to refer back to if he does get sick), also he had is first round of shots... The Australian doodles are supposed to be more calm and chill as pups, they still need lots of attention and training to keep them stimulated...the hair can be varied as far as texture but they do not shed... ...but a doodle is a doodle, they love the same!! Both are intelligent and easily trained! I only have experience with the Australian Labradoodles but my trainer and my breeder have been very helpful in explaining the differences! good luck

06-28-2011, 02:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
happydoodles Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 10	when allergy is involved then go for a pure australian labradoodle. here the grading scheme. every breeder cann tell what grade their puppies are. If they cannot, then you are risking that you have to re-home your doodle after a period of time because of allergy problems. For the sake of the dog please try to avoid that.

07-05-2011, 12:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
TammyTD123 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2	I'm looking for a breeder in NJ as well. Any luck?

07-06-2011, 02:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
deepnite10 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 1,353	it took me nearly a month of searching to eventually learn enough about the various generation s befor deciding on a F1b.. though there was no guarantee they would nt shedd..i was fortuante enough to find Toby..he sheds very lightly..not enough to even notice.. being a F1b..75% poodle..i was confident he d lean more towards the poodle coat than the lab.. as for size..Toby is on the big side..though the standards i saw were under 70lbs..Toby is now tipping the scales at 90lbs..yet he s as gentle as can be..and by now you know how easily train d they can be..

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