WHICH DOODLE

[cth13]

hi - i know this says labradoodle forum but have noticed some mention of goldendoodles. My question is does anyone have any opinion on one breed over the other (labradoodle v goldendoodle) we have 3 young children and love the sound of the temperament and look of the doodle but now researching i am getting 'confused' over which way to go thanks

[tuffystar]

Hi! I have never had a golden doodle but I have a labradoodle. I think the reason you are confused is that they are all good! For my next dog I want a golden doodle not because it is better just because I think it would be fun to have both. However, if a labradoodle comes my way I will be happy too. Right now we have a labradoodle and a border collie lab mix. I find the lab mix to be wonderful. Since I have been on my own I have had lab mixes and will always have lab mixes. This is because of their temperament, and how fun and funny they are! I like the poodle mixed in because of how very smart they are. Mix the poodle smarts and the lab smarts and wow what a mix you have! I hope this helps! I know there are golden doodles on this forum too. Again welcome!

[Lucky Me]

Welcome!!!
People always say that my curly coated F1B labradoodle (3/4 poodle,1/4 Lab), looks like a poodle.
But I always tell them......he is a poodle with "happy genes", as I credit the lab genes for the silly grin he always has on his face!

[gene]

Originally Posted by Lucky Me

Welcome!!!
People always say that my curly coated F1B labradoodle (3/4 poodle,1/4 Lab), looks like a poodle.
But I always tell them......he is a poodle with "happy genes", as I credit the lab genes for the silly grin he always has on his face!

LOVE IT!!! That's the perfect description of Rumor!

Oh and to answer the original question. Annmarie has one of both.....but it would be like her trying to see if she had a favorite child! She probably has some insight for you!

[KingstonTodd]

In my experience as a labradoodle owner but goldendoodle friend, they are pretty similar, and the differences depend more on the temperment of the individual dogs than anything else. The major difference would be in coat type and colour. F1 Labradoodles tend to have more of a scruffy hair coat, while higher generations can be fleecey or wool. F1 goldendoodles tend to have a longer, softer wavier coat than F1 labradoodles, but again higher generation labradoodles have longer, wavy or curly soft coats. Because labs come in 3 colours, you have more choice in colour of earlier generation labradoodles vs goldendoodles. For example, becasue golden retrievers carry black, you dont usually get a brown 1st generation goldendoodle because their black masks it. But you can get brown F1 labradoodles.

[Sandi&theBees]

Over the years, I have owned both a Labrador Retriever and a Golden Retriever. Because they were both rescues, I didn't have any knowledge of their history. But comparing the two, my feeling is that Goldens are much more dependent. Mine was always putting a paw up asking for attention -- my Vet, at the time, also had Goldens and said that was a common trait.

My Lab jumped up and down for the first three years (almost renamed her "Yo Yo" ) but then she mellowed out beautifully.

Not sure if this helps but, this was the reason I only considered Labradoodles when I was looking for Brewster.

[Lucky Me]

Temperment as far as the Labradoodles goes.....there are the field Labs & then there are the others.... Field Lab lines tend to be more hyper, but the trade-off is they tend to be more intelligent. Tuesday's mom is loaded with field champion lines but she was really mello when I met her at 5 yrs old. Tuesday is a born retriever, very SMART, and has mellowed with age too.....but....pull out that frizbee or throw a stick in the lake and she is a wild woman!!!
Tuesday ALWAYS puts that paw on your leg for attention but especially for a bite of your food!
As far as coats....from what I have seem of Goldendoodles, I would not go past an F1. I have seem some exceptions, but, alot of the F1B goldendoodle coats tend to be VERY tightly curled & thick. I remember looking at an F1B that had grown out, loaded with beautiful, tight ringlets, and thinking "how the heck do you brush that!"
In labradoodles, if you want to be assured a shed free coat, your safer going with an F1B. Even then, with genetics, you tend to get a couple F1 coats in there....

[mtd885]

Originally Posted by Lucky Me

Temperment as far as the Labradoodles goes.....there are the field Labs & then there are the others.... Field Lab lines tend to be more hyper, but the trade-off is they tend to be more intelligent. Tuesday's mom is loaded with field champion lines but she was really mello when I met her at 5 yrs old. Tuesday is a born retriever, very SMART, and has mellowed with age too.....but....pull out that frizbee or throw a stick in the lake and she is a wild woman!!!
Tuesday ALWAYS puts that paw on your leg for attention but especially for a bite of your food!
As far as coats....from what I have seem of Goldendoodles, I would not go past an F1. I have seem some exceptions, but, alot of the F1B goldendoodle coats tend to be VERY tightly curled & thick. I remember looking at an F1B that had grown out, loaded with beautiful, tight ringlets, and thinking "how the heck do you brush that!"
In labradoodles, if you want to be assured a shed free coat, your safer going with an F1B. Even then, with genetics, you tend to get a couple F1 coats in there....

The same goes for Golden Retrievers. There are show,field,pet types. Each individual is just that. I think that meeting the parents is important as the breeder is not objective. To the breeder their SWEET BABY that jumps up to kiss your face may not be what you are looking for! You may want that calm pup that's sitting and waiting for you to acknowledge it exists or they may show you a shy pup that evokes your mothering instincts but will be an ordeal to socialize. Or they show you 5 puppies two of which won't go near your kids but are so much cuter than the others. In old school (ok I'm old) the cliche was you train a Golden with a soft voice and a glance, a Labrador with a harsh voice and a glare, a Chessy with a harsh voice a glare and a stick Of course being a progressive liberal I now practice positive reinforcement (marker) using Pryor,Owens,Stilwell as references. Sooooo I suggest you look at both LD's and GD's till you find the one that's looking for you THEN POST PICTURES HERE!

As my standard answer to this question....Maya is both a labradoodle and a goldendoodle. If you can't choose get a NAR (north american retriever)

[tuffystar]

In reading the others comments it came to me to mention something I experienced. Tuffy was a lab mix and when I went to pick out a pup I really wanted a white dog. There were three litter mates that were white and Tuffy was golden color. I wanted to pick one of the white ones but they would not come near me. Tuffy was all over me. The owner of the dogs was a long time friend of mine and all his pups were exceptional even though they did not know what breed the father was. He said that the white pups never acted like that, that they were usually quite friendly. He handed me a white one and it cried and was shaking so I put it down. Tuffy kept begging me to hold him and kept playing with my hand. I picked Tuffy because he picked me. I never regretted taking Tuffy and till the day he died he was my friend and protector. What I am getting at is sometimes the right dog picks us and is not what we thought we wanted. Be open to both you may find a wonderful surprise.

[mtd885]

Originally Posted by tuffystar

In reading the others comments it came to me to mention something I experienced. Tuffy was a lab mix and when I went to pick out a pup I really wanted a white dog. There were three litter mates that were white and Tuffy was golden color. I wanted to pick one of the white ones but they would not come near me. Tuffy was all over me. The owner of the dogs was a long time friend of mine and all his pups were exceptional even though they did not know what breed the father was. He said that the white pups never acted like that, that they were usually quite friendly. He handed me a white one and it cried and was shaking so I put it down. Tuffy kept begging me to hold him and kept playing with my hand. I picked Tuffy because he picked me. I never regretted taking Tuffy and till the day he died he was my friend and protector. What I am getting at is sometimes the right dog picks us and is not what we thought we wanted. Be open to both you may find a wonderful surprise.

Exactly!

[lmtoth2]

I really think a lot depends on the individual dog's temperment. Dex is a labradoodle and I've met other labradoodles that were nothing like him, some that were a lot like him and some goldendoodles that seem just like him. I don't think you will go wrong either way

The same goes for Golden Retrievers. There are show,field,pet types.

Kirby is half irish setter and half poodle as many know...his mom is a field irish setter and was full of energy when we met her. I think that's why kirby has his intense bursts of energy Luckily they get burned off quickly and he'll settle down nicely

[cth13]

hi - thanks everyone for your replies. tonight we have actually put a hold on a goldendoodle we collect him tomorrow so no doubt will be back on with many more questions

[Jac]

I have enjoyed reading these responses...

I own and breed both, Labradoodles and Goldendoodles and I even breed the NARs (North American Retrievers...cross between Goldendoodle and Labradoodle). I think that I can answer pretty certainly that it isn't so much the breed, as it is the parent dogs and breeder you should be looking at.

Both breeds have their great dogs and their not so great dogs...you will find owners who rave about one over the other but I think that their experiences are limited to the dogs they have known. I am no different, even as a breeder...my experience is only with MY dogs. Still, I will say that because I carefully select my dogs for temperament, health and intelligence that there is not a great deal of difference between the Labradoodle or Goldendoodle.

They all have the loyalty and steadiness of the Retirever with the intelligence and athleticism of the Poodle but somehow the mix of these breeds also produces comical, happy, very social and loveable dogs that are in tune with their owners on a very unique level. I can't explain it...but as much as I adore my Poodles, there is something very sweet and funny about their offspring.

The only REAL difference that I can tell is that there is a slight appearance variance...USUALLY Goldendoodles have a more "impish" look...they know how to squint their eyes to give you a glimpse into their personalities...Labradoodles also have the impishness, but their expressions are more aloof and happy. Both breeds are excellent around children IF YOU TRAIN THEM CAREFULLY.

Your job, as a parent, is to research the breeder, select the right dog and then train that puppy to be the best companion it can be...it is important that you also teach your children how to be responsible dog owners...that they don't tease or hurt the puppy...that they respect the dog's privacy in the crate and not climb into the crate...that should be a place only for the dog, a place where it can go to get away from all of the playtime if it wants to.

Have your children participate in caring, feeding and training the puppy and you will have a great family pet and companion for your children.

Here is a good article about children and dogs:

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Conten ... C=0&A=2229

I have placed many puppies with families who have children of all ages, including autistic kids, and have never had one complaint about dog aggression. In fact, the opposite it true, these dogs are gentle and loving...but in return, they need to be respected and treated gently too...you need to select a good puppy (from good lines) and a breeder you can trust and then do everyting you can to ensure that the puppy is raised correctly.

Once you do, you will be blessed with one of the world's greatest companions! Best wishes.

[Lucky Me]

Bravo Jac!!